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- - By Zarkon (***) [th] Date 2012-09-20 03:10
I've just completed a review of the best places to play online. Probably no surprises - most of them have been around a while. Hope you like it!

http://www.zfchess.com/onlinechess.html
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2012-09-20 05:24
Thanks.

I fully agree with the FICS part and it's also my place of choice to play.
Parent - By Maxou93 (**) [fr] Date 2012-09-21 08:22
Dear friend,

May be you forget that one http://www.echecs-online.fr/ wich is also a very nice place existing with another one echecs online were the GUI is ancient but people very sympathetic and were you can play in international EON tournament wich are venue in different town. For example, october 29 will see in Paris a tournament from thus guys near the "Gare de l'est". But there is others intinerant like this one. To resume, two echecs online sites with nice people and absolutly free. Two sites echecs online for french and others, one modern, the second ancient, were it is good to be !
Best regards
Parent - By rhombus (*) [fi] Date 2012-09-20 06:37
Thank you!
A good summary of the online chess playing sites.
Parent - - By h.g.muller (****) [nl] Date 2012-09-20 09:42 Edited 2012-09-20 10:17
In the table of available clients for the various ICS/OS combinations you seem to have left out FICS/Linux. There are several interfaces available for Linux that can connect to FICS, and the most popular seems to be XBoard. Especially the latest XBoard, with its user-configurable shortcut menu, having the most-used commands available at the click of a button, a separate (tabbed) chat window that can handle up to 5 private chats (or channels), seek graph and a second board window for observing other games during your own (bughouse!) is really nice.



  
Parent - - By Zarkon (***) [th] Date 2012-09-20 10:59
No, FICS/Linux is in the table.

Xboard looks very nice.
Parent - - By h.g.muller (****) [nl] Date 2012-09-20 13:54
Oh, sorry, I should have said ICC/Linux. XBoard and WinBoard work on ICC just as well as on FICS. Both ICS are officially supported.
Parent - By Zarkon (***) [th] Date 2012-09-20 14:03
Thanks, I'll update the chart.
Parent - - By darmar (**) [rs] Date 2012-09-20 17:46 Edited 2012-09-20 17:50
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2012-09-20 18:21
No, I tried flyordie.com, FICS is better. Suggesting flyordie is like suggesting pogo.com to play chess (they don't even focus on chess to play, it's a server that hosts many games, chess being just one of them). Or even, *cough* YahooCheats *cough*

Last time I tried infinitychess.com it was very inactive. While activity isn't a big factor for deciding who is best (otherwise chess.com would be clearly best), a server that looks like a ghost town isn't very appealing (unless, this is no longer the case for infinitychess.com.)
Parent - By Homayoun_Sohrabi_M.D. (***) [us] Date 2012-09-20 18:49
I agree.   I entered flyordie.com, it's like some type of a cartoon environment with absurd looking chess pieces. 

Chessfriends.com is a really good site with an excellent chess server.   The only problem is that there is a limit on how many games you can play there per month so I just gave up going there but I really liked the site.
Parent - By Zarkon (***) [th] Date 2012-09-23 00:05 Edited 2012-09-23 00:14
Infinitychess had the distinction of being the only place I tried where there was no-one on the server! :eek:

Flyordie was the most popular site that I thought was really awful - with a small board, and forced wait for adverts. It reminded me of web browser chess in the 1990s. Of course, other people may have different experiences, especially if you have friends there etc - but my experience coming to it fresh was negative. Sorry!
Parent - - By M ANSARI (*****) [gb] Date 2012-09-21 06:14
Playchess is probably the best, but my advice is stay away from playing chess online as much as possible ... it is highly addictive :razz:  I wish I could take back all those hundreds (more likely thousands) of hours wasted there!
Parent - By BigBen (****) Date 2012-09-21 08:30

>I wish I could take back all those hundreds (more likely thousands) of hours wasted there!


Although I don`t get much time to play these days, I still try to get a few blitz games in before I go out in the morning HENCE I always turn up late :lol:

Regards
Parent - - By Chaotic Chess (****) Date 2012-09-22 08:23
I was wondering why FICGS (http://www.ficgs.com) was left out?
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2012-09-22 15:43
Does FICGS allow real time playing?
Parent - - By Chaotic Chess (****) Date 2012-09-22 16:05
Yes. It's a correspondence chess site but also support freestyle chess time controls (60min + 1min/move, 20mins + 30s/move and 5mins + 15s/move).
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2012-09-22 16:09
Is the move updated as it is made, or does the player need to refresh the page when it's played?
Parent - - By Chaotic Chess (****) Date 2012-09-22 16:21
Yes. It auto refresh the page every 15s.
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2012-09-22 20:25
15 seconds is way too much for real time playing of blitz games. I'd advice against FICGS just for that reason.

And I was not surprised, corr chess sites should be used for corr chess. In real life chess, when your opponent makes a move, you see it instantly on the board, there's no delay, the best places to play chess online should have real time updating.
Parent - - By Chaotic Chess (****) Date 2012-09-22 20:29
It plays instantly, once you play a move it will immediately register and you can immediately play your move as well.
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2012-09-22 20:35
But for 15 seconds nothing happens. This is well and acceptable in corr chess, and I can conceive that it's playable for some 90 minute games.

But for something like a 3 minute game? I doubt it, the player needs to find a better place for that.
Parent - By FICGS (**) [fr] Date 2018-01-26 15:27
Ah, there was a small mistake here... 15 seconds is the refresh time of the games list... the refresh time in fast games is (and has always been) 3 seconds.

Anyway, yes... FICGS is more a correspondence chess website.
Parent - - By tomgdrums (****) Date 2012-09-22 21:23 Edited 2012-09-22 21:26
One thing I didn't see in the review (correct me if I missed it!) was the type of games one can get at all of the different sites.  I think that is an important factor for any user to consider when deciding where to play.

I have spent a decent amount of time at the following sites:

ICC
FICS
Chesscube
Chess.com
Playchess

I like to play longer games (generally) and have not found the sites to be equal in the ability to find a longer game.

In my experience, ICC and FICS are heads above the other sites when trying to find a longer game (G/45 or longer).  And only rarely am I not able to find a game (G/45 or higher) at either of these sites.

Of ICC and FICS I generally prefer ICC as the games do seem to be "better" for some reason. 
But FICS is great!

On the other hand, I have yet to find a long game at Playchess. 

I will not be renewing my subscription to Playchess when the Fritz 13 grace period ends because of the lack of long games.  (if someone knows the right time of day to find long games at Playchess please let me know!)

Chesscube is my favorite site to go play blitz!  It looks nice and there are always games.  But I play blitz a lot less frequently.

Chess.com is a good place to find games in the G/15-G/30 category.
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2012-09-22 22:11 Edited 2012-09-22 22:14

> Of ICC and FICS I generally prefer ICC as the games do seem to be "better" for some reason.


I can agree to this, and maybe the problem is that FICS seems to be filled with more casual players, that just play the game for fun, while ICC seems to have more serious players. This isn't related to strength, but even very strong players on FICS seem to play around or just go for off-shot openings when they defeat me.

An occurrence I have noticed in FICS is "opening fads", if you go and play several opponents in a row, don't be surprised if they all play the same opening, it seems they're copying someone that played that opening and wanted to try them themselves, or they're copying each other or something. They'll probably use the opening you play against someone else, too.

FICS still gives the option of playing tournaments, and there all players seem to be playing as seriously as people on ICC.

One thing is for certain, the general population of some server has its own playing style, and it's different from another server. Against players of your same level, the games are different depending on the server. I recall a special case of this, though I don't remember what server it was, but its population was full of very aggressive players, all of them giving away pieces for attacks or creating mate threats with every move. I could understand why most players were like this, as in that server I became one, so I played very aggressively, in imitation, against new players, that probably became very aggressive themselves. Perhaps that's how the players at ICC and FICS got their style too (with new players on ICC facing serious play and becoming serious, while players of FICS faced casual play and became casual).

However, a site can't be judged by the players that are in it, or their playing style, so on the whole I think FICS is better than ICC, because it's free.
Parent - - By Christian Packi (****) [de] Date 2012-09-22 23:36
I've played on FICS, ICC and chess.com but can't say I noticed a difference in strength either. What one has to keep in mind though is that a rating from one site not necessarily matches a rating from another site. What I have also noticed though is that some openings are more often played on one site than another. For example on chess.com they love to play the QGA against me. As a consequence I was forced to get really good at that opening and have a ridiculous score around 80% in it.

Nowadays I only play on chess.com for several reasons. They have this great video collections from strong players (GM Kaidanovs on improving your chess are epic), they have a tactics trainer, they have this chess mentor thing which really rocks, I like the rematch button with which you can get in some crazy epic battles with someone else. I also fancy to just sit there and watch some big players do their thing against each other once in a while. Bottom line is it’s very convenient and has all in one place. Hell I even started playing bullet there... (it’s addictive stay away!).
Parent - - By tomgdrums (****) Date 2012-09-22 23:43

> Nowadays I only play on chess.com for several reasons. They have this great video collections from strong players (GM Kaidanovs on improving your chess are epic), they have a tactics trainer, they have this chess mentor thing which really rocks,


Some of the chess mentor courses on chess.com are the BEST instruction I have had on any chess subject!  Silman's courses on pawn endgames and rook endgames are UNBELIEVABLY good!
Parent - By Christian Packi (****) [de] Date 2012-09-22 23:51
Yes I was about to mention the endgames but didn’t due to lazyness. In combination with the videos on these topics and the chance to play them out against an engine over and over can get you real good in those.

Although I'm 1800-1900 I never had chess education as a kid so I began with the lowest rated courses working my way up. Some of those mating patterns were new to me and the courses really hammered them home. Then I played some friendly rapid games live against a friend and mated him with the Anastasia's mate (involving a rook sacrifice) with 3 seconds on the clock. No way I would have seen that mate before. Those are the great moments when you try to improve in anything. :wink:
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