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Parent - - By BigBen (****) Date 2012-04-09 14:30

>,because one person must 'have' the plan (the captain),and choose the better moves


Hi,
    It does not normally work like that, democracy rules!! the captain may want to play one move but if the 3 other team members want another move then the captain is out voted

>if each time each player choose one move,easily you wont get the correct plan for the position,and you wont pick up the better moves in the game


That maybe true as all players think differently but that for me would be part of the fun. Remember these are fun games and with engines they will more than likely be a draw still but I think it does increase the chances of a win either way ......

Anyway it is only a suggestion to get away from the norm :lol:

Regards
Parent - - By Barnard (Bronze) Date 2012-04-09 21:16
at real life,of course,democracy;when im joining a team,playing a sport,(whatever is the sport),i dont trust in democracy...i just trust in autocracy;i(or you or he)command and you(or me or he)obey [i dont mind the order if the captain is good]

of course,the captain must be a smart person,with high leadership,and must take care about the subordinates (in our case about the other players of the team,and choose the better moves)

we play for fun,of course,but even if we play for fun,i will give my best,im a very competitive person,i always was,and i even increased that 'spirit' when i was military for a long years

p.s.im not the captain of my team,just to clarify
Parent - - By BigBen (****) Date 2012-04-10 06:56

>i dont trust in democracy...i just trust in autocracy


We will have to agree to disagree on that point lmao :-)

>of course,the captain must be a smart person,with high leadership,and must take care about the subordinates


Personally I never think of people as being an inferior or below me as that is what subordinate suggests, I have known through my life many people who been in charge and yet do not have a clue, at the moment I am thinking of the British government with their latest stupid schemes

Regards
Parent - By Barnard (Bronze) Date 2012-04-10 13:00

>We will have to agree to disagree on that point lmao :-)


i said when we had a team,because each team need a captain,not at real life Tony

maybe you dont understand my point of view,because i continue thinking with my ''military-poin-of-view'';i dont know if you have been military in your life,but only if you have been military in your life,can understand me Tony

about stupid schemes,we also have with our also stupid Spanish government...but even if we have a stupid government,is always better than havent that stupid governt,and havent nay government (an anarchy)

Regards

Salva
- - By Fritz202 (**) [us] Date 2012-04-08 12:54
You guys seem to be at an in pass, Maybe you can play 2 games of rally and 2 games with whole teams? Anyone that wants to step out of one of the rounds can. Would be a shame you guys couldn't put these small differences a side to play this match.
Parent - - By Mark Eldridge (****) [gb] Date 2012-04-08 13:33
I'm OK with any format.
Parent - - By BigBen (****) Date 2012-04-09 14:48
Hi,
    If it is vanilla chess then that is fine :razz: I was simply trying to mix it up and as our team as played before we know how democracy works hahaha and ppipper and barnard will have to learn this very fast which will be interesting :lol::twisted::razz: ... Not even sure our team has a captain? or is that the guy who makes the moves on the forum?

Regards
Parent - - By Barnard (Bronze) Date 2012-04-09 21:18
Hi Tony

i think Paul is your teaam captain...

if your team didnt agree about that point,my advice is that your team must agree to have Paul as captain,your team will have a very good captain

p.s.captain is the guy who makes the moves...appart from that,each team gives the captain the attributes that each team thinks the captain must have,or the decissions the captain must take
Parent - - By BigBen (****) Date 2012-04-10 07:03

>i think Paul is your teaam captain...


Is he? well I think I will start a campaign to sack him then hahahaha :twisted::lol::razz:

>if your team didnt agree about that point,my advice is that your team must agree to have Paul as captain,your team will have a very good captain


I know Paul personally and know he will make a good Captain although don`t tell him I said so :yell::grin:

>p.s.captain is the guy who makes the moves...appart from that,each team gives the captain the attributes that each team thinks the captain must have,or the decissions the captain must take


Not sure that applies or would work with our team, it is 1 man 1 vote, we will as usual discuss and look at each others ideas but it will be democracy and not a dictatorship :lol:

Regards
Parent - By Barnard (Bronze) Date 2012-04-10 13:06
well,i thought is he since the moment he propossed himself,and none propossed also himself,and none told 'not' to accept him....

>I know Paul personally and know he will make a good Captain although don`t tell him I said so :yell::grin:


i promisse you that i wont tell him :wink:

>1 man 1 vote


and in case of tie when the team vote?dont think the team needs someone who breaks the tie?or what are you going to do in case of 2-2(or 1-1-1-1),and dont agree with the move with any reason or condition and each player want playing his move,losse on time?
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2012-04-24 21:55
i missed this post.Just shows what a search will find.:smile:
Parent - - By Barnard (Bronze) Date 2012-05-08 02:27
what happens to the team match?is cancelled?
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2012-05-08 06:40
Your team has a member missing, it's currently 4 Vs. 3.

So get going and invite people to join your team until one accepts.
Parent - - By Barnard (Bronze) Date 2012-05-08 08:41
i tried to invite to all the members that i know,but failed

and also ppipper tried,but also failed...so i dont know what we will do:delay the match until we will find the 4th member,or start playing the match 4 vs 3 (is just my idea)
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2012-05-12 00:52
just delay it,its hardly important just a bit of fun.
Parent - - By Barnard (Bronze) Date 2012-05-12 00:54
well,we also can have fun if we play a match 4 against 3
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2012-05-12 01:02
doesn't work like that,the more players you have the worse you play,ask Kasparov "the more i play the easier it gets".
Parent - - By Barnard (Bronze) Date 2012-05-12 01:04
i never told to have a easier game Paul,i just told because havent we the team completed,one of our players withdrew from the team,and we cant find another player to join the team
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2012-05-12 01:06
ask prodigy or Dazzle.:grin:
Parent - - By Barnard (Bronze) Date 2012-05-12 01:08
i preffer losse the game,or tell to join the team to a monkey...my ethic values are at first always
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2012-05-12 01:09
:smile::smile:
Parent - - By Barnard (Bronze) Date 2012-05-12 01:11
im always so clear and sincere
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2012-05-12 01:14
fresh blood for you,you should consult your team before replying to me,:evil::smile:

Its all fun to me.
Parent - By Barnard (Bronze) Date 2012-05-12 01:17
Paul,all that are my personal thoughts,not team thoughts...so i DONT speak in the name of my team,i just speak in my name,and only in my name
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2012-05-12 01:14
What about this?

We have a match:

Black Knights:
BigBen, NATIONAL12, Uly

Don Quijote Team:
Mark, Barnard, ppipper.

BUT we're allowed to ask for opening advice to turbojuice1122. That is, after the opening the game would become full 3v3. I think this is something that would be satisfactory to all parties.
Parent - - By Barnard (Bronze) Date 2012-05-12 01:18
i thought you had a 4 team...what happened with the 4th member?
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2012-05-12 01:26
turbojuice1122, he's going to be in China by the time we're on the middle game or something, and he's generally very busy (that's why he doesn't play corr chess actively anymore) so for him being an opening adviser of the team would be an advantage.
Parent - - By Barnard (Bronze) Date 2012-05-12 01:32
well,for me it isnt a problem in that case...so if we cant find a 4th member,i will propose to you and your team to play as you said:your team with 4 members (turbo really wont play the middlegame,or he wont be able to play actively,so in fact is the same than if your team has only 3 members),and our team playing only with 3 members...

now lets see if all of the members of your team accept that point,and all the members of my team accept that point,and if all the players accept that point,we can start the game as soon as posible,and we must not delay the game looking for other players
Parent - - By NeelBasant (**) [in] Date 2012-05-12 13:16
hi all i am very much interested in CC so will some body accept my offer.
Parent - - By Barnard (Bronze) Date 2012-05-12 13:23 Edited 2012-05-12 13:26
im not team captain,and even being,we must vote about it

edit:you can play correspondence chess under the correspondence chess sub-forum
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2012-05-12 13:25
He meant this thread:

http://rybkaforum.net/cgi-bin/rybkaforum/topic_show.pl?tid=24891

He wants someone to play him.
Parent - - By Barnard (Bronze) Date 2012-05-12 13:26
ah...and why he is asking in the 'team' thread?
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2012-05-12 13:31
Because with many people here, maybe one will play him.
Parent - - By Barnard (Bronze) Date 2012-05-12 13:43
ah,ok...
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2012-05-13 01:04
Why dont you ask Kappatoo to join your team he is stronger than most IM's OTB that i know.
Parent - - By Barnard (Bronze) Date 2012-05-13 01:16
i never asked him,because if i dont remember bad,he told me he is not interested in cc...but maybe im wrong,i will ask him
Parent - - By Kappatoo (****) [de] Date 2012-05-13 20:09
Sorry for preempting your question ...
What would be the rules of that game/match? I am a bit lost in this thread.
Parent - - By Barnard (Bronze) Date 2012-05-13 21:12
2 games,in with white and the other game with black

we (both teams) play with 4 members,and we surely will have a 'secret' subforum,where only we will be able to log in,and after that the subforum will be make open to all read it

i think (im not sure about that) that we will play time control of 2 days for each move,with an accumulative time of lets say 1/day or 1 day if we give our move and we have a remaining time of our 2 days,with a maximum of 1 week of accumulated time

in general terms,that are the rules of the match
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2012-05-14 02:13

> and we surely will have a 'secret' subforum,where only we will be able to log in,and after that the subforum will be make open to all read it


This is new. Past time the forum of the other team was never opened for inspection, and we played without a subforum (just by PM.)
Parent - - By Barnard (Bronze) Date 2012-05-14 02:20
the other team never had a secret sub forum,or never was opened for inspection?so tell me,im wrong,never existed that secret sub forum?
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2012-05-14 04:20
Never opened for inspection, so I don't think you'll have to open it.
Parent - - By Barnard (Bronze) Date 2012-05-14 11:56
well,i think is a good idea open the forum (both) after the match to allow the other team to look about it
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2012-05-15 09:17
Our team doesn't have a subforum.

I also claim we don't need one, and we probably won't open one unless a member of the team wants it.
Parent - By Barnard (Bronze) Date 2012-05-15 19:29
i think that having a sub-forum is a good idea,and if you wouldnt that others read it,simply tell that you wouldnt that the sub-forum will be opened after the match
Parent - - By keoki010 (Bronze) [us] Date 2012-05-14 14:34
Uly, you are slightly in error...
Parent - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2012-05-15 09:14

> Uly, you are slightly in error...


I can't see that forum:



So the point that it wasn't opened stands.
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2012-05-13 00:04
actually,i was going to suggest the opening we should play,Turbo has already given me his IDea thoughts on the opening.
Parent - - By BigBen (****) Date 2012-05-13 09:00

>i was going to suggest the opening we should play


Can you let me on in the secret lmao :lol:

Regards
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2012-05-13 09:49
Of course,against xxx i was going to sugest xxxxxx defense and against xxx try to get into a xxxxxx defense.Of course  it all depends on whether we are black or white,welcome your input on this.:smile:
Parent - - By Vempele (Silver) [fi] Date 2012-05-13 10:18

> Of course,against xxx i was going to sugest xxxxxx defense and against xxx try to get into a xxxxxx defense.


One xxx must mean Nf3 and the other Nc3, as Na3 and Nh3 are clearly inferior. One of the xxxxxx's could be French (e.g. 1. Nc3 d5 2. e4 e6).
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