I'm quite pleased really i played lots of the end game without engines.
OK no problem, i got lucky and played a rubbish game still got a draw though.
Mark,dont tell childish things,you played a good and interesting game,i just pointed some thoughts...i wont post again,my apologyes
It's no problem please post as much as you like i enjoy it very much. all comments are most welcome.
ok Mark,dont worry,all is solved
Just ignore me sometimes i post stupid things. You try and work for 22 out of 24 hours and see if your posts make sense.
[Event "WBCCC 2012"]
[White "indrajit_sg"]
[Black "Mark_Eldridge"]
Game 189178. Finished
[WhiteTime "6 days, 20 hours, 16 minutes"]
[BlackTime "20 days, 22 hours, 59 minutes"]
[Moves "1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.exd5 exd5 4.Nc3 Nf6 5.Nf3 Bd6 6.Bd3 O-O 7.O-O Bg4 8.Re1 c6 9.h3 Bh5 10.g4 Bg6 11.Ne5 Nbd7 12.g5 Bxe5 13.dxe5 Ne8 14.f4 Bxd3 15.Qxd3 Nc7 16.Be3 Ne6 17.Rad1 g6 18.Qd2 Qe7 19.Ne2 Rfd8 20.c3 Nb6 21.Ng3 Nc4 22.Qf2 Nxe3 23.Qxe3 Rd7 24.Qf2 c5 25.h4 c4 26.f5 Nc5 27.f6 Qf8 28.Qd4 Ne6 29.Qe3 Rad8 30.Ne2 d4 31.Nxd4 Qc5 32.Kf2 Qc8 33.h5 gxh5 34.Nf5 Qc5 35.Nd6 Rc7 36.Qxc5 Rxc5 37.Kg3 b6 38.Kh4 Nf4 39.Re4 Ng6+ 40.Kxh5 Rxe5 41.Red4 Rf8 42.Nxc4 Re2 43.R1d2 Re1 44.Rh2 Rfe8 45.Rd7 b5 46.Nd2 Ne5 47.Rxa7 h6 48.Re7 Rd8 49.Nf1 Rd5 50.Rf2 Re4 51.Ng3 Re3 52.Re2 Rxg3 53.R7xe5 Rxg5+ 54.Rxg5+ Rxg5+ 55.Kxh6 Rg6+ 56.Kh5 Rxf6 57.Re5 Rb6 58.Kg4 Kg7 59.Kf5 b4 60.cxb4 Rxb4 61.b3 Rb6 62.Rc5 Rb7 63.Rc3 Rb5+ 64.Ke4 f5+ 65.Kd4 Kf6 66.a4 Ra5 67.Rc5 Ra8 68.a5 Rb8 69.Rc6+ Kg5 70.Rb6 Rd8+ 71.Ke3 f4+ 72.Kf3 Rd5 73.b4 Rd3+ 74.Ke2"]
Result: Draw
[White "indrajit_sg"]
[Black "Mark_Eldridge"]
8/8/1R6/P5k1/1P3p2/3r4/4K3/8 b - - 0 74
Game 189178. Finished
[WhiteTime "6 days, 20 hours, 16 minutes"]
[BlackTime "20 days, 22 hours, 59 minutes"]
[Moves "1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.exd5 exd5 4.Nc3 Nf6 5.Nf3 Bd6 6.Bd3 O-O 7.O-O Bg4 8.Re1 c6 9.h3 Bh5 10.g4 Bg6 11.Ne5 Nbd7 12.g5 Bxe5 13.dxe5 Ne8 14.f4 Bxd3 15.Qxd3 Nc7 16.Be3 Ne6 17.Rad1 g6 18.Qd2 Qe7 19.Ne2 Rfd8 20.c3 Nb6 21.Ng3 Nc4 22.Qf2 Nxe3 23.Qxe3 Rd7 24.Qf2 c5 25.h4 c4 26.f5 Nc5 27.f6 Qf8 28.Qd4 Ne6 29.Qe3 Rad8 30.Ne2 d4 31.Nxd4 Qc5 32.Kf2 Qc8 33.h5 gxh5 34.Nf5 Qc5 35.Nd6 Rc7 36.Qxc5 Rxc5 37.Kg3 b6 38.Kh4 Nf4 39.Re4 Ng6+ 40.Kxh5 Rxe5 41.Red4 Rf8 42.Nxc4 Re2 43.R1d2 Re1 44.Rh2 Rfe8 45.Rd7 b5 46.Nd2 Ne5 47.Rxa7 h6 48.Re7 Rd8 49.Nf1 Rd5 50.Rf2 Re4 51.Ng3 Re3 52.Re2 Rxg3 53.R7xe5 Rxg5+ 54.Rxg5+ Rxg5+ 55.Kxh6 Rg6+ 56.Kh5 Rxf6 57.Re5 Rb6 58.Kg4 Kg7 59.Kf5 b4 60.cxb4 Rxb4 61.b3 Rb6 62.Rc5 Rb7 63.Rc3 Rb5+ 64.Ke4 f5+ 65.Kd4 Kf6 66.a4 Ra5 67.Rc5 Ra8 68.a5 Rb8 69.Rc6+ Kg5 70.Rb6 Rd8+ 71.Ke3 f4+ 72.Kf3 Rd5 73.b4 Rd3+ 74.Ke2"]
Result: Draw
good game,very interesting
both player have played the game very well,specially the endgame
both player have played the game very well,specially the endgame
Congrats, I see you are back to Barnard now!
yes,i asked Dadi to change my name
Good game guys, I really liked the endgame. Mark you played it very well.
Thank you very much Sir.
indrajit,why you never played 71.Ke2!! instead of 71.Ke3?,that goes directly to a draw?
you missed here another chance of winning the game
here is my line:
71.Ke2,Re8 72.Kf3,Re1 73.Rb4,Rb6 74.Ra4,Re8 75.a6,Kf6 76.b4,Ke7 77.b5,Kd7 78.Rc4 etc... with a winning position
you missed here another chance of winning the game
here is my line:
71.Ke2,Re8 72.Kf3,Re1 73.Rb4,Rb6 74.Ra4,Re8 75.a6,Kf6 76.b4,Ke7 77.b5,Kd7 78.Rc4 etc... with a winning position
This the the position after 70 moves:
How can I play 71. Ke2!! ?
3r4/8/1R6/P4pk1/3K4/1P6/8/8 w - -
How can I play 71. Ke2!! ?
This would be quite tricky to do.

sorry,my fault copying the position,i copied the King on the square d3,not d4... 
on the square d3,you can have the winning move Ke2

on the square d3,you can have the winning move Ke2
Good game guys, nice hard fight!
I have to say I found this game most impressive. The g4 plan worked out well and the resulting bind was hard to shake. It is a shame that white's strong middlegame play did not get rewarded with a win, but the defence was tough :)
The resulting R+2 vs R+1 was certainly much more fiddly to win than I had expected. I won't enter the debate on it because I have not analysed it thoroughly enough but I will say I found plenty of drawing lines so it certainly needs great care by white if it is to be won.
But it is hard to believe that the position after 58...Kg7 is not a straightforward win. During the game I looked at a few lines starting with 59.a3 and convinced myself it was a win for white. Unfortunately I chucked the analysis away, so cannot now check whether it was thorough enough.
Congrats to you both on an interesting game.
The resulting R+2 vs R+1 was certainly much more fiddly to win than I had expected. I won't enter the debate on it because I have not analysed it thoroughly enough but I will say I found plenty of drawing lines so it certainly needs great care by white if it is to be won.
But it is hard to believe that the position after 58...Kg7 is not a straightforward win. During the game I looked at a few lines starting with 59.a3 and convinced myself it was a win for white. Unfortunately I chucked the analysis away, so cannot now check whether it was thorough enough.
Congrats to you both on an interesting game.
I have just posted to the 7-man tablebase thread asking for resolution of some of the points being debated re R+2 vs R+1
Sorry, it's a lazy way of resolving trhe debate but assuming the TBs are correct (and they seem to be in other cases) it will give a definitive anaswer.
Sorry, it's a lazy way of resolving trhe debate but assuming the TBs are correct (and they seem to be in other cases) it will give a definitive anaswer.
Here it is. I had asked 7 man after the match:
1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. exd5 exd5 4. Nc3 Nf6 5. Nf3 Bd6 6. Bd3 O-O 7. O-O Bg4 8.
Re1 c6 9. h3 Bh5 10. g4 Bg6 11. Ne5 Nbd7 12. g5 Bxe5 13. dxe5 Ne8 14. f4 Bxd3
15. Qxd3 Nc7 16. Be3 Ne6 17. Rad1 g6 18. Qd2 Qe7 19. Ne2 Rfd8 20. c3 Nb6 21.
Ng3 Nc4 22. Qf2 Nxe3 23. Qxe3 Rd7 24. Qf2 c5 25. h4 c4 26. f5 Nc5 27. f6 Qf8
28. Qd4 Ne6 29. Qe3 Rad8 30. Ne2 d4 31. Nxd4 Qc5 32. Kf2 Qc8 33. h5 gxh5 34.
Nf5 Qc5 35. Nd6 Rc7 36. Qxc5 Rxc5 37. Kg3 b6 38. Kh4 Nf4 39. Re4 Ng6+ 40. Kxh5
Rxe5 41. Red4 Rf8 42. Nxc4 Re2 43. R1d2 Re1 44. Rh2 Rfe8 45. Rd7 b5 46. Nd2
Ne5 47. Rxa7 h6 48. Re7 Rd8 49. Nf1 Rd5 50. Rf2 Re4 51. Ng3 Re3 52. Re2 Rxg3
53. R7xe5 Rxg5+ 54. Rxg5+ Rxg5+ 55. Kxh6 Rg6+ 56. Kh5 Rxf6 57. Re5 Rb6 58. Kg4
Kg7 59. Kf5 b4 60. cxb4 Rxb4 {85 half-moves to mate} 61. b3 {84 half-moves to
mate} 61... Rb6 {Evaluation: 83 half-moves to mate} 62. Rc5 {90 half-moves
to mate} (62. Ke4 f6 63. Re7+ Kf8 64. Rd7 Rb5 65. Kd4 Ke8 66. Rd5 Rb7 67. Kc5
Rf7 68. Rf5 Ra7) 62... Rb7 {73 half-moves to mate} 63. Rc3 {114 half-moves to
mate} (63. Ke5 Rb6 64. Rd5 Kg6 65. Rd4 f5) 63... Rb5+ {113 half-moves to mate}
64. Ke4 {112 half-moves to mate} 64... f5+ {111 half-moves to mate} 65.
Kd4 {110 half-moves to mate} 65... Kf6 {109 half-moves to mate} 66. a4 {DRAW}
66... Ra5 {73 half-moves to mate} 67. Rc5 {78 half-moves to mate} (67. Rc8
Kg5 68. Rc1 Ra8 69. Ra1 Rd8+ 70. Ke5 Re8+ 71. Kd6 Rb8 72. Rb1 Ra8 73. Kc6 f4)
67... Ra8 {77 half-moves to mate} 68. a5 {76 half-moves to mate} 68... Rb8
{75 half-moves to mate} 69. Rc6+ {74 half-moves to mate} 69... Kg5 {73
half-moves to mate} 70. Rb6 {DRAW} (70. Rc3 Kg4 71. a6 f4 72. a7 Rd8+ 73.
Kc5 $1 73... Rc8+ 74. Kd6 Ra8 75. Rc7 $1 75... f3 76. Rf7 f2 77. Rxf2 Rxa7
{[%t bLon] Mate in 29:} 78. b4 Ra6+ 79. Kc7 Ra7+ 80. Kb8 Ra6 81. Kb7 Rd6 82.
b5 Rd7+ 83. Kc8 Rd6 84. Kc7 Rd5 85. b6 Rd3 86. b7 Rc3+ 87. Kb8 Re3 88. Rf1 Re4
89. Rb1 Re7 90. Ka8 Re8+ 91. b8=Q Rxb8+ 92. Kxb8 Kf5 93. Re1 Kg4 94. Rf1 Kg5
95. Rf8 Kg6 96. Kc7 Kg7 97. Rf5 Kg6 98. Re5 Kf7 99. Kd7 Kf6 100. Rd5 Kg7 101.
Ke6 Kg6 102. Ke7 Kg7 103. Rd6 Kh8 104. Rg6 Kh7 105. Kf7 Kh8 106. Rh6#) 70...
Rd8+ {DRAW} 71. Ke3 {DRAW} 71... f4+ {DRAW} 72. Kf3 {DRAW} 72... Rd5 {DRAW}
73. b4 {DRAW} 73... Rd3+ {DRAW} 74. Ke2 {DRAW} *
1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. exd5 exd5 4. Nc3 Nf6 5. Nf3 Bd6 6. Bd3 O-O 7. O-O Bg4 8.
Re1 c6 9. h3 Bh5 10. g4 Bg6 11. Ne5 Nbd7 12. g5 Bxe5 13. dxe5 Ne8 14. f4 Bxd3
15. Qxd3 Nc7 16. Be3 Ne6 17. Rad1 g6 18. Qd2 Qe7 19. Ne2 Rfd8 20. c3 Nb6 21.
Ng3 Nc4 22. Qf2 Nxe3 23. Qxe3 Rd7 24. Qf2 c5 25. h4 c4 26. f5 Nc5 27. f6 Qf8
28. Qd4 Ne6 29. Qe3 Rad8 30. Ne2 d4 31. Nxd4 Qc5 32. Kf2 Qc8 33. h5 gxh5 34.
Nf5 Qc5 35. Nd6 Rc7 36. Qxc5 Rxc5 37. Kg3 b6 38. Kh4 Nf4 39. Re4 Ng6+ 40. Kxh5
Rxe5 41. Red4 Rf8 42. Nxc4 Re2 43. R1d2 Re1 44. Rh2 Rfe8 45. Rd7 b5 46. Nd2
Ne5 47. Rxa7 h6 48. Re7 Rd8 49. Nf1 Rd5 50. Rf2 Re4 51. Ng3 Re3 52. Re2 Rxg3
53. R7xe5 Rxg5+ 54. Rxg5+ Rxg5+ 55. Kxh6 Rg6+ 56. Kh5 Rxf6 57. Re5 Rb6 58. Kg4
Kg7 59. Kf5 b4 60. cxb4 Rxb4 {85 half-moves to mate} 61. b3 {84 half-moves to
mate} 61... Rb6 {Evaluation: 83 half-moves to mate} 62. Rc5 {90 half-moves
to mate} (62. Ke4 f6 63. Re7+ Kf8 64. Rd7 Rb5 65. Kd4 Ke8 66. Rd5 Rb7 67. Kc5
Rf7 68. Rf5 Ra7) 62... Rb7 {73 half-moves to mate} 63. Rc3 {114 half-moves to
mate} (63. Ke5 Rb6 64. Rd5 Kg6 65. Rd4 f5) 63... Rb5+ {113 half-moves to mate}
64. Ke4 {112 half-moves to mate} 64... f5+ {111 half-moves to mate} 65.
Kd4 {110 half-moves to mate} 65... Kf6 {109 half-moves to mate} 66. a4 {DRAW}
66... Ra5 {73 half-moves to mate} 67. Rc5 {78 half-moves to mate} (67. Rc8
Kg5 68. Rc1 Ra8 69. Ra1 Rd8+ 70. Ke5 Re8+ 71. Kd6 Rb8 72. Rb1 Ra8 73. Kc6 f4)
67... Ra8 {77 half-moves to mate} 68. a5 {76 half-moves to mate} 68... Rb8
{75 half-moves to mate} 69. Rc6+ {74 half-moves to mate} 69... Kg5 {73
half-moves to mate} 70. Rb6 {DRAW} (70. Rc3 Kg4 71. a6 f4 72. a7 Rd8+ 73.
Kc5 $1 73... Rc8+ 74. Kd6 Ra8 75. Rc7 $1 75... f3 76. Rf7 f2 77. Rxf2 Rxa7
{[%t bLon] Mate in 29:} 78. b4 Ra6+ 79. Kc7 Ra7+ 80. Kb8 Ra6 81. Kb7 Rd6 82.
b5 Rd7+ 83. Kc8 Rd6 84. Kc7 Rd5 85. b6 Rd3 86. b7 Rc3+ 87. Kb8 Re3 88. Rf1 Re4
89. Rb1 Re7 90. Ka8 Re8+ 91. b8=Q Rxb8+ 92. Kxb8 Kf5 93. Re1 Kg4 94. Rf1 Kg5
95. Rf8 Kg6 96. Kc7 Kg7 97. Rf5 Kg6 98. Re5 Kf7 99. Kd7 Kf6 100. Rd5 Kg7 101.
Ke6 Kg6 102. Ke7 Kg7 103. Rd6 Kh8 104. Rg6 Kh7 105. Kf7 Kh8 106. Rh6#) 70...
Rd8+ {DRAW} 71. Ke3 {DRAW} 71... f4+ {DRAW} 72. Kf3 {DRAW} 72... Rd5 {DRAW}
73. b4 {DRAW} 73... Rd3+ {DRAW} 74. Ke2 {DRAW} *
I agree g4 was very nicely played, i tride a different way of playing which was not to my liking. Back to my old ways of playing.
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