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- - By Gizchehs Defender (***) [nl] Date 2012-04-11 12:08 Edited 2012-04-11 12:13
bnrnkbrq/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/BNRNKBRQ w - - 0 1


NOTE: I haven't trained on this Specifik Position. I have yet not done with any Position, however I have Plans to do it on a Specifik one.

NOTE: We do not Castle, this is Shuffle Chess, not Chess 960.

NOTE: I play with Black.

*With Credits to Bill Foster who Created and is the Owner of the Tarrasch Chess GUI.
Parent - - By Gizchehs Defender (***) [nl] Date 2012-04-11 21:27
No one wants to play?

Too small of a Community for Shuffle Chess thus.
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2012-04-12 05:15 Edited 2012-04-12 05:29
Okay, I'll do it, it's my first Shuffle Chess correspondence game, so it sounds like fun. This move inspired by Banned for Life:

[Date "2012.04.12"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "bnrnkbrq/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/BNRNKBRQ w - -"]

1. b3

bnrnkbrq/pppppppp/8/8/8/1P6/P1PPPPPP/BNRNKBRQ b - -
Parent - - By Gizchehs Defender (***) [nl] Date 2012-04-17 16:25 Edited 2012-04-17 16:37
It's a ( very ) Good Move, however I have yet to see wether it is the best Move.
... And even than, Banned for Live Plausibly has a Reputation, so ofcourse I can be Wrong if I think that it is not the best Move after I have analyzed the Sitatuation myself!
Also, Even ChessComputers make Different moves everytime, and the Element of Openings still do Excist.

In this game I will use my Shuffle Chess Experience from Rybka 2.3.2a mp 32-bit - who Drilled me HardFoolish - and the new Principles I have met with Shuffle Chess :smile:

Prepare!
Parent - - By Gizchehs Defender (***) [nl] Date 2012-04-17 16:32 Edited 2012-04-17 18:28
But I have 4 Questions:

1: How to make a Move?

2: Is there a Submit Button for when you want to make a Move? That's what I prefer.

3: How to Prevent Castling if you want to move to a Square that will Classicly Castle your King?

4: How to Flip the Board into Black's Favour?
Parent - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2012-04-18 16:50
Just as I did, you type your move into a post. I also added a FEN and a PGN for the game, but that's just so spectators can follow, they are not necessary and just posting 1.b3 would have sufficed.

>3: How to Prevent Castling if you want to move to a Square that will Classicly Castle your King?


I won't, knowing this is Shuffle Chess and not Chess960, trying to castle would be as foolish as trying to make a Knight move with my Bishop (Castling being illegal)

>4: How to Flip the Board into Black's Favour?


Not possible with current Forum software :sad:
Parent - - By Gizchehs Defender (***) [nl] Date 2012-04-18 18:34
1. ...b6
Parent - By keoki010 (Bronze) [us] Date 2012-04-18 18:41
blacks format should be 1...b6

Just for your info!
Parent - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2012-04-19 03:06
[Event "?"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2012.04.18"]
[Round "?"]
[White "?"]
[Black "?"]
[Result "*"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "bnrnkbrq/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/BNRNKBRQ w - -"]

1. b3 b6 2. h4

bnrnkbrq/p1pppppp/1p6/8/7P/1P6/P1PPPPP1/BNRNKBRQ b - -
Parent - By Gizchehs Defender (***) [nl] Date 2012-04-18 18:35
1.b6
Parent - By Gizchehs Defender (***) [nl] Date 2012-04-18 22:49
1...b6
- By Gizchehs Defender (***) [nl] Date 2012-04-18 18:36
1.b6
- By Gizchehs Defender (***) [nl] Date 2012-04-18 18:38
So I have seen.

b6
- By Gizchehs Defender (***) [nl] Date 2012-04-18 18:39
b6
- By Gizchehs Defender (***) [nl] Date 2012-04-18 18:41
hmm... hmm...
- By Gizchehs Defender (***) [nl] Date 2012-04-18 22:48
1...b6
- - By Gizchehs Defender (***) [nl] Date 2012-04-18 22:49
lol Uly and People help me further :razz:
Parent - - By Gizchehs Defender (***) [nl] Date 2012-04-18 22:53
Heck I will lose this game anyway due to that I cannot Flip the Board.
Only maybe because Uly is Inexperienced in Shuffle Chess and thus does not know the Principles of Shuffle Chess ( very well ).
Do you want to know, Uly?
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2012-04-19 02:54

> Heck I will lose this game anyway due to that I cannot Flip the Board.


If that's a problem maybe we can cancel the game and restart it with you as white.

By they way, 1. ...b6 was perfectly valid.
Parent - - By Gizchehs Defender (***) [nl] Date 2012-04-22 12:07
Don't worry, my Sir, I have found the Tarrasch Chess GUI as an idea.
Parent - By Gizchehs Defender (***) [nl] Date 2012-04-22 12:08
And { Banned for Life } did well with that move yes :lol: !
- - By Gizchehs Defender (***) [nl] Date 2012-04-22 12:48 Edited 2012-04-22 12:51
h5

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- or You want to Exploit my Weakness.
- or You are an Offensive/Aggressive Player.
- or You want Queen Comfort.
- or You want a Combination or all of Those.
- or Banned for Life, or SomeOneElse, suggested you this move and other Elements may take a Role ( either ).

xD
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2012-04-23 21:42

> - or You are an Offensive/Aggressive Player.


This.
Parent - By Gizchehs Defender (***) [nl] Date 2012-04-24 01:40
Offensive: Offensive Mindset. when looking  at the Position, you prefer to exploit Tactical and Strategical Weaknesses of your opponent rather than your own, provided that they are ( about ) of the same importance.

Aggressive: Like Mikhail Tal, and Junior: http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=4357

Only Aggression; Sacrifice Material Speculatively to open up the Position and attack, attack, attack like Blitz Chess would be glad about.

I think that you are Offensive as you said to have about a rating of 1400 OTB...
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2012-04-24 00:31
[Event "?"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2012.04.23"]
[Round "?"]
[White "?"]
[Black "?"]
[Result "*"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "bnrnkbrq/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/BNRNKBRQ w - -"]

1. b3 b6 2. h4 h5 3. Nbc3

bnrnkbrq/p1ppppp1/1p6/7p/7P/1PN5/P1PPPPP1/B1RNKBRQ b - -
Parent - - By Gizchehs Defender (***) [nl] Date 2012-04-26 14:29 Edited 2012-04-26 14:31
3... Kde6
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2012-04-26 20:06
Whoa! It's the first time I see a Knight crossdressing as a King :lol:

[Event "?"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2012.04.26"]
[Round "?"]
[White "?"]
[Black "?"]
[Result "*"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "bnrnkbrq/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/BNRNKBRQ w - -"]

1. b3 b6 2. h4 h5 3. Nbc3 Ne6 4. e3

bnr1kbrq/p1ppppp1/1p2n3/7p/7P/1PN1P3/P1PP1PP1/B1RNKBRQ b - -
Parent - - By Gizchehs Defender (***) [nl] Date 2012-04-26 21:50
4... Rd8

I thought very very long about this move.
Trust me, this might become the most Tactical Game that I have ever played, just INSANE !!!
This favours you ofcourse :sad:
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2012-04-27 20:02
[Event "?"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2012.04.27"]
[Round "?"]
[White "?"]
[Black "?"]
[Result "*"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "bnrnkbrq/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/BNRNKBRQ w - -"]

1. b3 b6 2. h4 h5 3. Nbc3 Ne6 4. e3 Rd8 5. Qh2

bn1rkbrq/p1ppppp1/1p2n3/7p/7P/1PN1P3/P1PP1PPQ/B1RNKBR1 b - -
Parent - - By Gizchehs Defender (***) [nl] Date 2012-04-27 21:33
my Bishop goes to b7 on move 5...
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2012-04-28 19:46
[Event "?"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2012.04.28"]
[Round "?"]
[White "?"]
[Black "?"]
[Result "*"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "bnrnkbrq/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/BNRNKBRQ w - -"]

1. b3 b6 2. h4 h5 3. Nbc3 Ne6 4. e3 Rd8 5. Qh2 Bb7 6. d4

1n1rkbrq/pbppppp1/1p2n3/7p/3P3P/1PN1P3/P1P2PPQ/B1RNKBR1 b - -
Parent - - By Gizchehs Defender (***) [nl] Date 2012-04-28 23:28
6... Pawn c6

That will not stimulate my Developement and the Power of my Bishop; further more, you will surely and definetily take the lead, also with your Offensive Style.
.... That move has to be done none-the-less.
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2012-04-29 19:02
[Event "?"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2012.04.29"]
[Round "?"]
[White "?"]
[Black "?"]
[Result "*"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "bnrnkbrq/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/BNRNKBRQ w - -"]

1. b3 b6 2. h4 h5 3. Nbc3 Ne6 4. e3 Rd8 5. Qh2 Bb7 6. d4 c6 7. Ne4

1n1rkbrq/pb1pppp1/1pp1n3/7p/3PN2P/1P2P3/P1P2PPQ/B1RNKBR1 b - -
Parent - - By Gizchehs Defender (***) [nl] Date 2012-04-30 20:17
d5

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The only move with Sense.
Parent - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2012-05-01 21:48
[Event "?"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2012.05.01"]
[Round "?"]
[White "?"]
[Black "?"]
[Result "*"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "bnrnkbrq/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/BNRNKBRQ w - -"]

1. b3 b6 2. h4 h5 3. Nbc3 Ne6 4. e3 Rd8 5. Qh2 Bb7 6. d4 c6 7. Ne4 d5 8. Ng5

1n1rkbrq/pb2ppp1/1pp1n3/3p2Np/3P3P/1P2P3/P1P2PPQ/B1RNKBR1 b - -
- - By Gizchehs Defender (***) [nl] Date 2012-04-22 13:10
Uly what is you ELO Ranking I need to know.
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2012-04-23 21:44
I'm about 1400, so I'm a woodpusher, but that's OTB, at corr chess I estimate my strength to be about the equivalent of 2275 ICCF.
Parent - - By Gizchehs Defender (***) [nl] Date 2012-04-24 02:03
AIh, I estimate myself between 1454-1689 In Correspondance... and that's of Chess.com Standards...
But actually don't know wether ELO or Gicko. At Chess.com they had Gicko.

But don't forget that I managed to get a Draw with her one time huh :yell:

Do you actually know wether non-Tournament Players are welcome on ICCF?
I found that site a Suspicious due to its user-Unfriendness; this brought me to think of which Target Group they are aiming at... Definitely not Casual players, which I by the way ain't.
At the Registration they were Suspicious with asking wether I have never met with Correspondance Chess, Wether met a litle on another Chess Site, wether * Unknown *, and wether I have already played in Correspondance Chess Tournaments very often and are Hilarious about it.

I was the second option, and I could not login. Never tried it after, bit still want to try anytime soon with the 4th option.
Forgot the Site but now that you have said it, you reminds me on my lost Goal.

I find it Strange that People who are not Potential Participate in an ICCF Tournament, and any other Tournament of any kind, because its a Tournament and for the '' Group feeling '' :neutral:
It does not has anything to do with Devotioness to Chess that I don't play in Tournaments. Realisticism it is.
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2012-04-24 16:07
Well, they allowed me to join the ICCF thanks to my performance in the WBCCC. The reason I don't play actively there is that they don't allow playing with handles, which is ridiculous given that I already told them my real name.
Parent - By Gizchehs Defender (***) [nl] Date 2012-04-25 19:25
So my Theory: Plausible

And ya you have to give your official name there.

'' We are Serious, Casual Players are not welcome here. ''

On one side Attractive, on the other side not.
- By Gizchehs Defender (***) [nl] Date 2012-04-25 21:12
the Noble Steed jumps to e6
- - By Gizchehs Defender (***) [nl] Date 2012-04-26 20:32 Edited 2012-04-26 20:35
4. e3

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I don't know wether it's a semi-advised move or it's totally your own move, but that move just seems so Pro, Honestly.
Though, I think that I see what your Plan is and what the ( Classical ) Tactical intention behind your Plan is.
I won't be Cooperative and lose on Time, so you can exploit my Weakness Provided that you like to do it.

I dare not to Underestimate you, but luckily for me that's not what I am used to do :neutral:
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2012-04-26 23:59

> I don't know wether it's a semi-advised move or it's totally your own move


I never receive advice from other humans in my moves, and when they've tried to advice me, I don't read it and I ignore it, so don't worry, you're only playing me.
Parent - - By Gizchehs Defender (***) [nl] Date 2012-04-27 02:36
and therefore it is pleasurable for me and you that I stated ' semi-advised '.
I said it with pre-caution, at least tried it, since when somebody finds him and her self on thin Ice, one has to be treat the Situation with Care.

He is Banned for Live.

But heck you said Inspired, not Advised :surprised:
My apologizes for if you feel insulted.
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2012-04-27 04:48
Well, Banned for Life has never played a Shuffle Chess or Chess 960 game that I know, and I haven't spoken to him about this game or anything in quite a while.

It's just that, in normal chess, he always opens with 1.b3, just like this game.
Parent - By Gizchehs Defender (***) [nl] Date 2012-04-27 11:15
oh, a Combo of Reliability & Comfort !!

> :slim:

Parent - - By Gizchehs Defender (***) [nl] Date 2012-04-27 14:13
Is he is Banned for Live a Nimzovitch Lover and a Tarrasch Hater?
Parent - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2012-04-27 16:16
No idea, but one day he decided to become the world's expert on 1.b3, and he got to it. Now it's impossible to see b3 played on the board without thinking of him!

I saw your move, I don't have my answer ready yet.
- By Gizchehs Defender (***) [nl] Date 2012-04-27 11:12 Edited 2012-04-27 11:15
I did Rook to d8.

I don't know wether you did not saw the move, or you are bussy, or something else, or wether the fault lies on me because I am playing so slow.
- - By Gizchehs Defender (***) [nl] Date 2012-04-28 23:41
There can be no doubt that you are a very Master in Correspondance Chess; I can already see on how you have exploited my first Knight move ( I did it with a Plan, you took down the Plan :red: )

As a SideNote, I don't like symmetric Chess.
Then I always think that people think that I just Copy the move from my opponent, while I don't like this drabness myself and while I know that Smart people know that Rationionality goes first.
'... Even when I Combat against Rybka the SlaughterLady ( I am a dayDreamer ).

Now I have Told you indirect information, along with other indirect information, that I have told Publicly, and to you, that you can use to your advantage.

Time for Rybka Chess.
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