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Parent - - By FWCC (***) Date 2008-01-26 21:49 Edited 2008-01-26 21:58
Round 5 should be a good one.Did anyone expect  Glaurung to do so well?What is Glaurung running off of?Glaurung at CEGT at 4/40 is:
10   Glaurung 2.01 x64 2CPU   2843   18   18   910   50.5%   2839   35.9%. CCRL  has 1  Glaurung 2.0.1 64-bit 4CPU  2940  +21  −21  48.6%  +7.4  43.7%  714   So then Glaurung is impressive of course another version is probably used for CCT.
Parent - - By Uri Blass (*****) Date 2008-01-26 21:56 Edited 2008-01-26 22:01
Glaurung seems to have a special code to disconnect its opponents.
In round 3 Junior disconnected against Glaurung so it lost in won position and in round 4 Ikarus also disconnected to lose a better position.

analysis of the final position of round 4
Glaurung black

Rybka 2.3.2a 32-bit, Friend mode
6k1/4b1p1/3p3p/1p1Pp3/1Pr1N3/7P/2nB1PP1/2R3K1 w - - 0 1


Analysis by Rybka 2.3.2a 32-bit :

30.f2-f3 Kg8-f7
  =  (-0.16)   Depth: 5   00:00:00
30.f2-f3 Kg8-f7 31.Kg1-f1
  =  (-0.07)   Depth: 6   00:00:00  2kN
30.f2-f3 Kg8-f7 31.Kg1-f1 Nc2-d4
  =  (-0.07)   Depth: 7   00:00:00  3kN
30.f2-f3 Kg8-f7 31.Kg1-f1 Nc2-d4 32.Bd2-c3
  =  (-0.06)   Depth: 8   00:00:00  6kN
30.f2-f3 Kg8-f7 31.Kg1-f1 Nc2-d4 32.Bd2-c3 Kf7-g6
  =  (-0.05)   Depth: 9   00:00:00  10kN
30.f2-f3 Kg8-f7 31.Kg1-f1 Nc2-d4 32.Bd2-c3 Kf7-g6 33.Kf1-f2
  =  (-0.07)   Depth: 10   00:00:00  17kN
30.f2-f3 Kg8-f7 31.Kg1-f1 Nc2-d4 32.Bd2-c3 Kf7-g6 33.Kf1-f2 Rc4-c7
  =  (-0.06)   Depth: 11   00:00:00  32kN
30.f2-f3 g7-g5 31.Kg1-f1 Kg8-g7 32.Kf1-e2 Kg7-g6 33.Rc1-b1 h6-h5 34.Ke2-d3
  =  (-0.06)   Depth: 12   00:00:02  111kN
30.f2-f3 Kg8-f7 31.Kg1-f1 Nc2-d4 32.Bd2-c3 Kf7-g6 33.Kf1-f2 Rc4-c7 34.Rc1-e1 Nd4-f5
  =  (-0.01)   Depth: 13   00:00:03  203kN
30.f2-f3 Kg8-f7 31.Kg1-f1 Nc2-d4 32.Bd2-c3 Kf7-g6 33.Kf1-f2 Be7-h4+ 34.Kf2-f1 Bh4-e7 35.Kf1-f2 Be7-h4+ 36.Kf2-f1 Bh4-e7
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 14   00:00:07  361kN
30.f2-f3 Kg8-f7 31.Kg1-f1 Nc2-d4 32.Bd2-c3 Kf7-g6 33.Kf1-f2 Be7-h4+ 34.Kf2-f1 Bh4-e7 35.Kf1-f2 Be7-h4+ 36.Kf2-f1 Bh4-e7
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 15   00:00:09  476kN
30.f2-f3 Kg8-f7 31.Kg1-f1 Nc2-d4 32.Bd2-c3 Kf7-g6 33.Kf1-f2 Be7-h4+ 34.Kf2-f1 Bh4-e7 35.Kf1-f2 Be7-h4+ 36.Kf2-f1 Bh4-e7
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 16   00:00:12  653kN
30.f2-f3 Kg8-f7 31.Kg1-f1 h6-h5 32.Kf1-e2 h5-h4 33.Ke2-d1 Nc2-d4 34.Rc1-a1 Nd4-f5 35.Ra1-a5 Rc4-d4 36.Ra5xb5 Nf5-e3+
  =  (0.02)   Depth: 17   00:00:34  1660kN
30.f2-f3 Kg8-f7 31.Kg1-f1 h6-h5 32.Kf1-e2 h5-h4 33.Ke2-d1 Nc2-d4 34.Rc1-a1 Nd4-f5 35.Ra1-a5 Rc4-d4 36.Ra5xb5 Nf5-e3+
  =  (0.04)   Depth: 18   00:00:45  2083kN
30.f2-f3 Kg8-f7 31.Kg1-f1 Nc2-d4 32.Bd2-c3 Kf7-e8 33.Kf1-f2 Ke8-d7 34.Rc1-a1 Nd4-c2 35.Ra1-a5 Nc2xb4 36.Ra5xb5 Nb4-d3+
  =  (0.08)   Depth: 19   00:01:56  5488kN

(,  27.01.2008)

Game of round 4(Glaurung white against Junior)

[Event "Friend mode"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "????.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "?"]
[Black "Rybka 2.3.2a 32-bit"]
[Result "*"]
[PlyCount "79"]

{128MB, RybkaII.ctg, URI-AMD} 1. d4 Nf6 2. Bg5 d5 3. Bxf6 gxf6 4. c4 c5 5. cxd5
Qxd5 6. Nf3 cxd4 7. Nc3 Qa5 8. Nxd4 Bh6 9. e3 O-O 10. Bb5 a6 11. Ba4 Rd8 12.
O-O Bg7 13. Rc1 e6 14. Ne4 Bd7 15. Nc5 Bxa4 16. Qxa4 Qxa4 17. Nxa4 Nd7 18. Rc7
Rab8 19. Rd1 f5 20. Nxe6 fxe6 21. Rcxd7 Rxd7 22. Rxd7 Rc8 23. g3 b5 24. Nb6 Rc6
25. Rb7 Bxb2 26. Nd7 Rc1+ 27. Kg2 Ra1 28. Nc5 Rxa2 29. Nxe6 Bc3 30. Nf4 b4 31.
Kf3 a5 32. Nd3 Ra1 33. Rb8+ Kf7 34. Kf4 Ke6 35. Rb5 Ra2 36. f3 Kd6 37. Rxf5 a4
38. Nc5 a3 39. Ne4+ Kc6 40. Rc5+ *

Uri
Parent - - By FWCC (***) Date 2008-01-26 22:00
Really her opponents disconnected? Maybe some sort of program haha?Naw just kidding how strange,maybe it is just Glaurung;s play yea right.
Parent - By Vempele (Silver) Date 2008-01-26 22:05

>Really her opponents disconnected?


Glaurung was called Father of Dragons.

Wikipedia's [ b ].
Parent - By Banned for Life (Gold) Date 2008-01-26 22:59
Proving that its better to be lucky than good.
Parent - - By Dadi Jonsson (Silver) Date 2008-01-27 11:54 Edited 2008-01-27 11:58
My impression after day 1 based on a quick look at the games of some of the top engines:

1. Rybka has been playing well. The knight and pawn endgame against Ikarus would have been very tempting for most chess engines. Ikarus played the endgame well and held the draw.

2. Zappa was not playing convincingly. Then came its victory against Hiarcs in round 4 which shows what it is capable of. Before that I doubted that it could win the tournament, see for instance it's game against E.T Chess. But now it's leading the tournament so there isn't much to complain about!

3. After the first 3 rounds Hiarcs looked like a very strong candidate for winning the tournament, but its fourth round loss against Zappa, its first game against one of the top engines, gave a different impression. Still, it's not out of the race. It's playing against Glaurung in round 5 (Two of Glaurung's wins are due to technical problems of its opponents). If Hiarcs wins and Rybka wins Zappa, then Hiarcs will only be half a point behind the leader going into the two final rounds.

4. Similar to Zappa, my impression is that Junior's play has not been convincing. Add to that technical problems (loss due to disconnection against Glaurung in a probably won position) and it looks like this is a tournament that the Junior team wants to forget as quickly as possible.

Round 5, which starts in a few minutes will be very exciting!
Parent - - By richbell (**) Date 2008-01-27 12:01
Is chessok live broadcast working?? It says unable to load broadcast list?! :-(
Parent - By AndrewWalker (**) Date 2008-01-27 12:51
Going now! Go Hiarcs!
Zappa and Rybka ???

Andrew
Parent - - By Dadi Jonsson (Silver) Date 2008-01-27 12:25
Rybka- Zappa first moves:

[Event ""]
[Site "chessclub.com"]
[Date "2008.1.27"]
[Round ""]
[White "Rybka"]
[Black "Zappa"]
[Result "*"]

1.c4 e5 2.Nc3 Nc6 3.g3 g6 4.Bg2 Bg7 5.e4 d6 6.d3 f5 7.exf5 Bxf5
8.Nge2 Nf6 9.O-O O-O 10.Nd5 Qd7 11.Nxf6+ Bxf6 12.Be3 *
Parent - By Tokra (*) Date 2008-01-27 12:28
You can watch on ICC - Game 1655
Parent - - By richbell (**) Date 2008-01-27 12:28
Broadcast working now, thanks.
Parent - By richbell (**) Date 2008-01-27 13:40
WOW, Awesome :-)  Rybka - Zappa match. Congrats Rybka team. Vas please tell us what do you feel about this game.
Parent - - By Nick (*****) Date 2008-01-27 13:47
Rybka with the white pieces has dispatched Zappa.   Zappa's last book move was 10 ... Qd7 and Rybkas was 12 . Be3 (I can't begin to tell you the inordinate amount of work over the last three weeks that went into those 12 moves!).   The resulting game had a very similar profile to the countless long-game quad vs quad simulations  I did against Zappa.   It's funny, I caught Jeroen on MSN Messenger this Friday evening just passed and told him my plan and that I thought I had spotted a 1.c4 weakness in Zappa's play - and he supported it, so his 1. e4 was a nice response to my poll!

[Event "ICC 50 3 u"]
[Site "Internet Chess Club"]
[Date "2008.01.27"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Rybka"]
[Black "Zappa"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "A25"]
[WhiteElo "2821"]
[BlackElo "2690"]
[PlyCount "135"]
[EventDate "2008.??.??"]
[TimeControl "3000+3"]

1. c4 e5 2. Nc3 Nc6 3. g3 g6 4. Bg2 Bg7 5. e4 d6 6. d3 f5 7. exf5 Bxf5 8. Nge2
Nf6 9. O-O O-O 10. Nd5 Qd7 11. Nxf6+ Bxf6 12. Be3 Kh8 13. Qb3 a5 14. Rfe1 Rab8
15. Rad1 Bg7 16. a3 Bg4 17. Rb1 Ne7 18. Qb5 Qxb5 19. cxb5 Nf5 20. Bd2 Bxe2 21.
Rxe2 Nd4 22. Re4 Nxb5 23. a4 Nd4 24. Bxa5 Rf7 25. Bc3 Nf3+ 26. Kh1 c6 27. a5
Ra8 28. Rb4 Ra7 29. Ra1 d5 30. Rb6 e4 31. Bxg7+ Kxg7 32. dxe4 dxe4 33. Bxf3
exf3 34. b4 Ra8 35. g4 Re8 36. b5 cxb5 37. Rxb5 Re2 38. Kg1 Kf6 39. h3 Rd2 40.
Rab1 Ra2 41. R1b3 Kg7 42. Rb2 Rxb2 43. Rxb2 Kf6 44. Kh2 h5 45. Kg3 hxg4 46.
hxg4 Kg5 47. Rb3 Kh6 48. Rb5 g5 49. Rf5 Re7 50. Kxf3 Re6 51. Rb5 Re7 52. Kg2
Kg6 53. Rb6+ Kg7 54. f3 Re2+ 55. Kg1 Re1+ 56. Kf2 Re7 57. Rb4 Kf6 58. Rb3 Kg6
59. Re3 Rc7 60. Re5 Kf6 61. Rf5+ Kg6 62. Ke3 Rd7 63. Ke4 Rc7 64. Kd4 Kh6 65.
Rb5 Kg6 66. Kd5 Kf6 67. Kd6 Rc6+ 68. Kd7 {Black resigns} 1-0

Anthony had some low threshold auto-resign set, Rybka was showing +4.36, I will attach the console log so the evals can be seen.  Erdo thinks this game is in fact drawn.

Now we have two very tough games to play, beating Zappa was a nice milestone on the way, we've not won CCT10 yet!
Attachment: rybka-zappa.txt (31k)
Parent - - By richbell (**) Date 2008-01-27 13:56 Edited 2008-01-27 14:10

> Now we have two very tough games to play, beating Zappa was a nice milestone on the way, we've not won CCT10 yet!


This is THE GAME of the tournament for me. Love to see Fish recipe lovers, go dizzy. Now they know how poisonous Rybka recipe is. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha..... :-)

Check this out Rybka recipe lovers, even livescience seems to have found it. ;-)

http://www.livescience.com/php/multimedia/imagegallery/igviewer.php?imgid=868&gid=55&index=0
Parent - - By AndrewWalker (**) Date 2008-01-27 14:09
Sure you're not dizzy yourself? Anyway wasn't the cricket fun today!

But it's sure getting late here.
Parent - - By richbell (**) Date 2008-01-27 14:37 Edited 2008-01-27 14:52

> Sure you're not dizzy yourself? Anyway wasn't the cricket fun today!
>
> But it's sure getting late here.


Yeah, i know, my sister settled in australia, it should be pretty late now there for the rest of the match.

Too bad it's going to be a draw on India - Australia match. Indian media and people were pretty pissed off with the second match however.

Don't know how Australia reacted. It looked more like 11 + 3 players played for Australia in the second match :-)
Parent - - By AndrewWalker (**) Date 2008-01-27 14:49
Obviously we didn't pick the umpires well enough later :-)

Arasan is toast, Rybka thinks its down but it may not be enough to win.
Parent - - By AsosLight (***) Date 2008-01-27 15:27
nice and easy victory for Hiarcs in round 6. Rybka play until the end. maybe she thinks the position is drawn$$
Parent - By JhorAVi (***) Date 2008-01-27 16:12
Maybe she was hoping that somehow Hiarcs will disconnect thrice like what happend to junior against glaurung :) :)
Parent - - By Nick (*****) Date 2008-01-27 15:28
And now I've lost to Hiarcs ... this is a book loss (O-O-O probably did it).  Hiarcs' last move in book was 18. Rfd1 and ours was 18. Rhe8, so I outbooked team Hiarcs but into pretty much a lost position.  Rybka was calling +0.20 for white out of book and it just got worse and worse.  Even though it's a book loss no doubt they'll make it "the best game of CCT10".   It would have been much better to play with no book whatsoever here.  Congratulations to Team Hiarcs nonetheless for taking the full point and for finding that line.

[Event "ICC 50 3 u"]
[Site "Internet Chess Club"]
[Date "2008.01.27"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Hiarcs8x"]
[Black "Rybka"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "D47"]
[WhiteElo "2817"]
[BlackElo "2821"]
[PlyCount "137"]
[EventDate "2008.??.??"]
[TimeControl "3000+3"]

1. d4 d5 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 c6 4. e3 Nf6 5. Nf3 Nbd7 6. Bd3 dxc4 7. Bxc4 b5 8. Bd3
Bb7 9. O-O a6 10. e4 c5 11. d5 Qc7 12. dxe6 fxe6 13. Bc2 c4 14. Nd4 Nc5 15. Be3
O-O-O 16. Qe2 e5 17. Nf3 Bd6 18. Rfd1 Rhe8 19. b3 b4 20. Nd5 Bxd5 21. exd5 e4
22. Ng5 Bxh2+ 23. Kf1 c3 24. Bxc5 Qxc5 25. Qxa6+ Kc7 26. Ne6+ Rxe6 27. dxe6 Bg3
28. Qe2 Rf8 29. e7 Rf7 30. Kg1 Rxe7 31. a3 Nd5 32. Rxd5 Qxd5 33. fxg3 bxa3 34.
Qe3 Qd6 35. Qxc3+ Kb7 36. Qe3 Qb4 37. Kh2 Re6 38. Rd1 Rh6+ 39. Kg1 Qb6 40.
Bxe4+ Kb8 41. Qxb6+ Rxb6 42. Bxh7 Rxb3 43. Rb1 Rxb1+ 44. Bxb1 Kc7 45. Kf2 Kd6
46. Kf3 Ke5 47. Ke3 Ke6 48. Kf4 g6 49. Ba2+ Kf6 50. g4 g5+ 51. Ke4 Kg6 52. Ke5
Kg7 53. Ke6 Kg6 54. Ke7 Kg7 55. Bf7 Kh7 56. Kf6 Kh8 57. Kxg5 Kg7 58. Ba2 Kf8
59. Kf6 Ke8 60. g5 Kd7 61. g6 Kc7 62. g7 Kb7 63. g8=Q Kc6 64. Qd5+ Kb6 65. Ke7
Ka6 66. Bc4+ Kb6 67. Qb5+ Kc7 68. Bd5 Kc8 69. Qb7# {Black checkmated} 1-0
Parent - - By AsosLight (***) Date 2008-01-27 15:42
Of course every time Rybka loses it's a bug or a book failure... But looking at Rybka's evaluations you can realize that she took many moves to realize the king safety problem because of O-O-O. Of course if not long castle black's center ruins. Anyway Hiarcs is simply MUCH MUCH better in king attacks. So the best player won in that case. That's the objective aproach. P.S: The drawn game between Zappa and Naum was more fashinating. After all there was a fight!
Parent - - By JhorAVi (***) Date 2008-01-27 16:15
Or maybe Haircs got some improvements from Strelka codes? :)
Parent - By Carl Bicknell (*****) Date 2008-01-27 16:22
I hope programmers don't use strelka - that's basically piracy.
Parent - - By Carl Bicknell (*****) Date 2008-01-27 18:39
The Hiarcs / Rybka comparison was true with 2.3.2a but I thought they had done a lot of work on rybka 3 in the area of king attacks??
Parent - By AsosLight (***) Date 2008-01-28 08:33
Yes i believe it but i think that Hiarcs improved in that aspect even more resently.
Parent - - By Uri Blass (*****) Date 2008-01-27 19:32
Rybka could also lose games with no books and it is not clear that it could be better to play with no book.
Even if rybka could do better against hiarcs with no book then it is still possible that it could do worse against zappa with no book.

I am not sure if it is a book loss and if rybka evaluates lost position as 0.2 then rybka has an evaluation problem.

My rybka evaluates the position at move 19 as only 0.1 pawns for white.

Hiarcs8x - Rybka, ICC 50 3 u Internet Chess Club 2008
2krr3/1bq3pp/p2b1n2/1pn1p3/2p1P3/2N1BN2/PPB1QPPP/R2R2K1 w - - 0 1


Analysis by Rybka 2.3.2a 32-bit :

19.Nf3-h4 Nc5-e6
  =  (0.21)   Depth: 5   00:00:00
19.Nf3-h4 Nc5-e6 20.Nh4-f5
  =  (0.17)   Depth: 6   00:00:00  20kN
19.Nf3-h4 Nc5-e6 20.Nh4-f5 Ne6-d4
  =  (0.03)   Depth: 7   00:00:00  31kN
19.Nf3-h4 Nc5-e6 20.Nh4-f5 Ne6-d4 21.Nf5xd4
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 8   00:00:02  130kN
19.Nf3-h4 Nc5-e6 20.Nh4-f5 Ne6-d4 21.Nf5xd4 e5xd4 22.Be3xd4 Bd6xh2+ 23.Kg1-h1
  =  (0.01)   Depth: 9   00:00:04  281kN
19.Nf3-h4 Nc5-e6 20.Nh4-f5 Ne6-d4 21.Nf5xd4 e5xd4 22.Be3xd4 Bd6xh2+ 23.Kg1-h1 Bh2-e5
  =  (0.03)   Depth: 10   00:00:06  397kN
19.Nf3-h4 Nc5-e6 20.Nh4-f5 Bd6-c5 21.Be3xc5 Qc7xc5 22.Rd1xd8+ Re8xd8 23.Ra1-d1 Rd8xd1+ 24.Qe2xd1 g7-g6 25.Nf5-d6+ Kc8-b8
  =  (-0.10)   Depth: 11   00:00:10  696kN
19.h2-h3 Kc8-b8 20.Ra1-c1 Nc5xe4 21.Nc3xe4 Bb7xe4 22.Bc2xe4 Nf6xe4 23.a2-a4 Qc7-c6 24.a4xb5 a6xb5 25.Rc1-a1 Rd8-d7
  =  (-0.06)   Depth: 11   00:00:21  1438kN
19.Ra1-c1 Nc5xe4 20.Nc3xe4 Bb7xe4 21.Bc2xe4 Nf6xe4 22.a2-a4 Kc8-b7 23.Nf3-g5 Ne4xg5 24.Be3xg5 Bd6-e7 25.Bg5xe7 Re8xe7
  =  (0.03)   Depth: 11   00:00:42  2776kN
19.Ra1-c1 Nc5xe4 20.Nc3xe4 Bb7xe4 21.Bc2xe4 Nf6xe4 22.a2-a4 Kc8-b8 23.a4xb5 a6xb5 24.Be3-a7+ Qc7xa7 25.Qe2xe4 Qa7-b7
  =  (-0.04)   Depth: 12   00:00:50  3393kN
19.Ra1-c1 Nc5xe4 20.Nc3xe4 Bb7xe4 21.Bc2xe4 Nf6xe4 22.Nf3-g5 Ne4-f6 23.b2-b3 c4-c3 24.Rc1xc3 Qc7xc3 25.Rd1-c1 Qc3xc1+
  =  (-0.03)   Depth: 13   00:01:26  5682kN
19.Ra1-c1 Nc5xe4 20.Nc3xe4 Bb7xe4 21.Bc2xe4 Nf6xe4 22.a2-a4 Kc8-b8 23.a4xb5 a6xb5 24.h2-h3 Bd6-c5 25.Rd1xd8+ Re8xd8
  =  (-0.05)   Depth: 14   00:02:09  9061kN
19.b2-b3 Nc5xe4 20.Bc2xe4 Bb7xe4 21.b3xc4 Qc7xc4 22.Qe2xc4+ b5xc4 23.Nc3xe4 Nf6xe4 24.Rd1-c1 c4-c3 25.Nf3-g5 Ne4xg5
  =  (0.19)   Depth: 14   00:02:49  11614kN
19.b2-b3 Nc5xe4 20.Bc2xe4 Bb7xe4 21.b3xc4 Qc7xc4 22.Qe2xc4+ b5xc4 23.Nc3xe4 Nf6xe4 24.Rd1-c1 c4-c3 25.Nf3-g5 Ne4xg5
  =  (0.13)   Depth: 15   00:03:19  13704kN
19.b2-b3 Nc5xe4 20.Bc2xe4 Bb7xe4 21.b3xc4 Qc7xc4 22.Qe2xc4+ b5xc4 23.Nc3xe4 Nf6xe4 24.Rd1-c1 c4-c3 25.Nf3-g5 Ne4xg5
  =  (0.10)   Depth: 16   00:04:29  18830kN

(,  27.01.2008)
Parent - By Nick (*****) Date 2008-01-27 19:58
You are probably right Uri.
Parent - - By Uri Blass (*****) Date 2008-01-27 20:32
more analysis by rybka
Rybka clearly does not see the win of hiarcs out of book and I doubt if rybka chose the best move to defend in the game.

Hiarcs8x - Rybka, ICC 50 3 u Internet Chess Club 2008
2krr3/1bq3pp/p2b1n2/1pn1p3/2p1P3/2N1BN2/PPB1QPPP/R2R2K1 w - - 0 1


Analysis by Rybka 2.3.2a 32-bit :

19.Nf3-h4 Nc5-e6
  =  (0.21)   Depth: 5   00:00:00
19.Nf3-h4 Nc5-e6 20.Nh4-f5
  =  (0.17)   Depth: 6   00:00:00  20kN
19.Nf3-h4 Nc5-e6 20.Nh4-f5 Ne6-d4
  =  (0.03)   Depth: 7   00:00:00  31kN
19.Nf3-h4 Nc5-e6 20.Nh4-f5 Ne6-d4 21.Nf5xd4
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 8   00:00:02  130kN
19.Nf3-h4 Nc5-e6 20.Nh4-f5 Ne6-d4 21.Nf5xd4 e5xd4 22.Be3xd4 Bd6xh2+ 23.Kg1-h1
  =  (0.01)   Depth: 9   00:00:04  281kN
19.Nf3-h4 Nc5-e6 20.Nh4-f5 Ne6-d4 21.Nf5xd4 e5xd4 22.Be3xd4 Bd6xh2+ 23.Kg1-h1 Bh2-e5
  =  (0.03)   Depth: 10   00:00:06  397kN
19.Nf3-h4 Nc5-e6 20.Nh4-f5 Bd6-c5 21.Be3xc5 Qc7xc5 22.Rd1xd8+ Re8xd8 23.Ra1-d1 Rd8xd1+ 24.Qe2xd1 g7-g6 25.Nf5-d6+ Kc8-b8
  =  (-0.10)   Depth: 11   00:00:10  696kN
19.h2-h3 Kc8-b8 20.Ra1-c1 Nc5xe4 21.Nc3xe4 Bb7xe4 22.Bc2xe4 Nf6xe4 23.a2-a4 Qc7-c6 24.a4xb5 a6xb5 25.Rc1-a1 Rd8-d7
  =  (-0.06)   Depth: 11   00:00:21  1438kN
19.Ra1-c1 Nc5xe4 20.Nc3xe4 Bb7xe4 21.Bc2xe4 Nf6xe4 22.a2-a4 Kc8-b7 23.Nf3-g5 Ne4xg5 24.Be3xg5 Bd6-e7 25.Bg5xe7 Re8xe7
  =  (0.03)   Depth: 11   00:00:42  2776kN
19.Ra1-c1 Nc5xe4 20.Nc3xe4 Bb7xe4 21.Bc2xe4 Nf6xe4 22.a2-a4 Kc8-b8 23.a4xb5 a6xb5 24.Be3-a7+ Qc7xa7 25.Qe2xe4 Qa7-b7
  =  (-0.04)   Depth: 12   00:00:50  3393kN
19.Ra1-c1 Nc5xe4 20.Nc3xe4 Bb7xe4 21.Bc2xe4 Nf6xe4 22.Nf3-g5 Ne4-f6 23.b2-b3 c4-c3 24.Rc1xc3 Qc7xc3 25.Rd1-c1 Qc3xc1+
  =  (-0.03)   Depth: 13   00:01:26  5682kN
19.Ra1-c1 Nc5xe4 20.Nc3xe4 Bb7xe4 21.Bc2xe4 Nf6xe4 22.a2-a4 Kc8-b8 23.a4xb5 a6xb5 24.h2-h3 Bd6-c5 25.Rd1xd8+ Re8xd8
  =  (-0.05)   Depth: 14   00:02:09  9061kN
19.b2-b3 Nc5xe4 20.Bc2xe4 Bb7xe4 21.b3xc4 Qc7xc4 22.Qe2xc4+ b5xc4 23.Nc3xe4 Nf6xe4 24.Rd1-c1 c4-c3 25.Nf3-g5 Ne4xg5
  =  (0.19)   Depth: 14   00:02:49  11614kN
19.b2-b3 Nc5xe4 20.Bc2xe4 Bb7xe4 21.b3xc4 Qc7xc4 22.Qe2xc4+ b5xc4 23.Nc3xe4 Nf6xe4 24.Rd1-c1 c4-c3 25.Nf3-g5 Ne4xg5
  =  (0.13)   Depth: 15   00:03:19  13704kN
19.b2-b3 Nc5xe4 20.Bc2xe4 Bb7xe4 21.b3xc4 Qc7xc4 22.Qe2xc4+ b5xc4 23.Nc3xe4 Nf6xe4 24.Rd1-c1 c4-c3 25.Nf3-g5 Ne4xg5
  =  (0.10)   Depth: 16   00:04:29  18830kN
19.b2-b3 Nc5xe4 20.Bc2xe4 Bb7xe4 21.b3xc4 Qc7xc4 22.Qe2xc4+ b5xc4 23.Nc3xe4 Nf6xe4 24.Rd1-c1 c4-c3 25.Nf3-g5 Ne4xg5
  =  (0.11)   Depth: 17   00:06:59  29509kN
19.b2-b3 Nc5xe4 20.Bc2xe4 Bb7xe4 21.b3xc4 Qc7xc4 22.Qe2xc4+ b5xc4 23.Nc3xe4 Nf6xe4 24.Rd1-c1 c4-c3 25.Nf3-g5 Ne4xg5
  =  (0.06)   Depth: 18   00:12:19  51738kN
19.b2-b3 Nc5-e6 20.b3xc4 Ne6-d4 21.Nf3xd4 e5xd4 22.Be3xd4 Bd6xh2+ 23.Kg1-h1 Bh2-e5 24.Nc3-d5 Bb7xd5 25.c4xd5 Kc8-b8
  =  (0.09)   Depth: 19   00:44:41  172734kN
19.b2-b3 Nc5-e6 20.b3xc4 Ne6-d4 21.Nf3xd4 e5xd4 22.Be3xd4 Bd6xh2+ 23.Kg1-f1 Bh2-e5 24.Nc3-d5 Bb7xd5 25.Bd4xe5 Bd5xc4
  =  (0.11)   Depth: 20   01:02:03  241015kN

(,  27.01.2008)
Parent - By Victor Zakharov (*****) Date 2008-01-28 18:25
Rybka m14 sees the threats. If finds 19.b3 for 55 seconds. I think it will be 30-40 seconds on tournament computer.
Moreover after 19...Ncxe4 there is no so clear white advantage and Rybka should play this move. But for some ocasional reason 19...b4 was played.

[(+0.41)]  d=18  19.b3 Ncxe4 20.Bxe4 Bxe4 21.Nxe4 Nxe4 22.Rdc1 Ba3 23.Rc2 Bc5 24.bxc4 b4 25.Ne1 Bxe3 (0:05.47)
[(+0.25)]  d=17  19.b3 Ncxe4 20.Bxe4 Bxe4 21.Nxe4 Nxe4 22.Rdc1 Ba3 23.Rc2 Bc5 24.bxc4 b4 25.Ng5 Nxg5 (0:01.53)
[(+0.26)]  d=16  19.b3 Ncxe4 20.Bxe4 Bxe4 21.Nxe4 Nxe4 22.Rdc1 Ba3 23.Rc2 Bc5 24.bxc4 b4 25.Ng5 Nxg5 (0:01.16)
[(+0.23)]  d=15  19.b3 Ncxe4 20.Bxe4 Bxe4 21.Nxe4 Nxe4 22.Rdc1 Ba3 23.Rc2 Bc5 24.bxc4 b4 25.Ng5 Nxg5 (0:00.55)
[(+0.00)]  d=15  19.Kh1 Kb8 20.Nd5 Nxd5 21.exd5 Nd3 22.Bxd3 cxd3 23.Qxd3 e4 24.Qd4 Bc5 25.Qxc5 Qxc5 (0:00.31)
[(+0.07)]  d=14  19.Kh1 Kb8 20.a4 b4 21.Nd5 Nxd5 22.exd5 e4 23.Nd4 Bxd5 24.Nb5 axb5 25.Rxd5 Re5 (0:00.22)
[(-0.05)]  d=13  19.Kh1 Kb8 20.a4 b4 21.Nd5 Nxd5 22.exd5 e4 23.Nd4 Bxd5 24.Nb5 Qc6 25.Nxd6 Qxd6 (0:00.12)
[(+0.07)]  d=12  19.Kh1 Ncxe4 20.Nxe4 Bxe4 21.Bxe4 Nxe4 22.a4 Qc6 23.axb5 axb5 24.Ng5 Nxg5 25.Bxg5 Rd7 (0:00.07)
[(+0.09)]  d=10  19.Kh1 Ne6 20.a4 b4 21.Nd5 Nxd5 22.exd5 Nf4 23.Bxf4 exf4 24.Be4 Kb8 25.Rac1 c3 (0:00.06)
[(-0.05)]  d=10  19.Rab1 Nfxe4 20.Ng5 Nxc3 21.bxc3 e4 22.Qh5 Nd3 23.a4 (0:00.06)
[(-0.14)]  d=10  19.Nh4 Ne6 20.Nf5 Bc5 21.f3 g6 22.Bxc5 (0:00.03)
[(-0.22)]  d=10  19.g3 Ncxe4 20.Nxe4 Nxe4 21.a4 Rf8 22.Nh4 Nxf2 (0:00.02)
[(+0.08)]  d=9  19.g3 Ncxe4 20.Nxe4 Bxe4 21.a4 Bxc2 22.Qxc2 Bc5 23.Qf5 Kb8 24.Rxd8 Rxd8 25.Bxc5 Qxc5 (0:00.01)
[(+0.13)]  d=8  19.g3 Ncxe4 20.Nxe4 Bxe4 21.Bxe4 Nxe4 22.a4 Qc6 23.axb5 (0:00.01)
[(+0.00)]  d=8  19.Nh4 Ne6 20.Nf5 Bc5 21.f3 (0:00.00)
[(+0.09)]  d=7  19.Nh4 Ne6 20.Nf5 Nd4 (0:00.00)
[(+0.13)]  d=6  19.Nh4 Ne6 20.Nf5 (0:00.00)
[(+0.09)]  d=6  19.a3 Ncxe4 20.Nxe4 Bxe4 21.Bxe4 Nxe4 22.a4 (0:00.00)
[(+0.14)]  d=5  19.a3 Ncxe4 (0:00.00)
[(+0.19)]  d=3  19.a3 (0:00.00)
Parent - - By Permanent Brain (*****) Date 2008-01-27 16:29
Round 7: 1.b3 against Fruit - I like it! What were the last book moves in that game?

After move 16, I see an eval of +0.58 and the position looks as if "action" is guaranteed. :-D
Parent - By richbell (**) Date 2008-01-27 16:53
What's happening with Rybka - Fruit match?? Seems to be stuck at 15. axb4 Re6 16. h4... for a long time.

Server not working or is it just me?
Parent - - By Venator (Silver) Date 2008-01-27 16:54
There are no more updates, can somebody fix this please!? Still 16.h4 as last move....
Parent - - By Dadi Jonsson (Silver) Date 2008-01-27 17:03
Current position:

3r1k2/1pp1Rbp1/pb6/5P2/1P4K1/1PB5/3PR3/8 w - -


Rybka (C) kibitzes: depth=23 time=36.52 node=20340736 speed=570327     score=+1.52 pv="Kxg4"

I'll try to find out about the broadcast
Parent - By richbell (**) Date 2008-01-27 17:05
Thanks Jeroen and Dadi. Broadcast working now. :-)
Parent - - By Dadi Jonsson (Silver) Date 2008-01-27 17:04
Naum - Hiarcs:

4r1k1/4q2p/p3P1pP/1bp5/2N2n2/2Q3PB/3R3K/8 w - -


NaumXMP (C) kibitzes: score 6.21, depth 21, time 30 sec, nodes 285325623,     nps 9340544, tbhits 4098, pv gxf4 Qf8 Kg3 Qxh6 Nd6 Qg7 Qxg7+ Kxg7
Parent - By Permanent Brain (*****) Date 2008-01-27 17:23 Edited 2008-01-27 17:26
Naum wins, and Rybka most probably too. That would mean, both will have 5.5 points and will be co-winners if I understand the tournament rules correctly. - Naum made this score from 6 games only, after being too late for round one. Imagine that game (against Symbolic) would have been played...

Appearantly, many engines will finish with 5.0/7. A very balanced tournament, in the top ranks.
Parent - - By Dadi Jonsson (Silver) Date 2008-01-27 17:05
Glaurung - Zappa:

8/2k5/7p/p1Np1p2/P1nPpPp1/4P1P1/4K2P/8 w - -


Score: 0.00
Parent - - By Venator (Silver) Date 2008-01-27 17:24
Ah, OK. So it seems Naum and Rybka will share first place, both scoring 5,5. What is going to
happen if this is the case!?
Parent - By Dadi Jonsson (Silver) Date 2008-01-27 17:33
From http://www.cctchess.com/:

> In the event of a tie situation:


> There will be co-winners awarded.


So it seems there will be no tiebreaks.
Parent - - By Venator (Silver) Date 2008-01-27 17:33
Ah, it will be a tie and both Naum and Rybka will be co winners. No tiebreaker, pity! Nick, are you also going to play the blitz tournament?

Jeroen
Parent - By Nick (*****) Date 2008-01-27 17:40
Hi Jeroen, I am available to play on, but it looks like the TD Peter Skinner needs to attend some work-related emergency, if he can get through the Canadaian snow that is, so has cancelled the rapid event.  We are still waiting to hear from Alex Naumov if he accepts our playoff challenge.
Parent - - By Nick (*****) Date 2008-01-27 17:34
Rybka beats Fruit with the white pieces by playing 1.b3.  Fruit's first move out of book was 3 ... Nf6 and Rybka's was 14. Bxc3, with an eval of +0.53, I suspect that Alan may have had some influence on me here:)

[Event "ICC 50 3 u"]
[Site "Internet Chess Club"]
[Date "2008.01.27"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Rybka"]
[Black "Fruit-CCT10"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "A01"]
[WhiteElo "2821"]
[BlackElo "2000"]
[PlyCount "181"]
[EventDate "2008.??.??"]
[TimeControl "3000+3"]

1. b3 e5 2. Bb2 Nc6 3. c4 Nf6 4. Nf3 e4 5. Nd4 Bc5 6. Nf5 O-O 7. e3 d5 8. cxd5
Nb4 9. Ng3 Nfxd5 10. Qc1 Bb6 11. Nxe4 Re8 12. Nbc3 Bf5 13. a3 Nxc3 14. Bxc3
Bxe4 15. axb4 Re6 16. h4 h6 17. Qd1 Qe7 18. h5 Bf5 19. Bc4 Qg5 20. Bxe6 Bxe6
21. Qe2 Rd8 22. f4 Qd5 23. O-O Qf5 24. Kh2 Rd5 25. Rab1 Qxh5+ 26. Qxh5 Rxh5+
27. Kg3 Rb5 28. e4 f5 29. exf5 Rxf5 30. Rfe1 Bf7 31. Re5 Rf6 32. f5 Rd6 33. Kf4
h5 34. Rbe1 Rd3 35. R1e2 a6 36. Re7 Kf8 37. g3 Rd5 38. g4 hxg4 39. Kxg4 Rd8 40.
Kg3 Rd3+ 41. Kf4 Rd8 42. d4 Rd5 43. Kg4 Rd8 44. Re1 Rd5 45. Bb2 Rd6 46. Kg5 Kg8
47. R1e4 Rd8 48. R4e5 Rd6 49. b5 Rd8 50. Bc3 axb5 51. Rxb5 Be8 52. Rbe5 Bf7 53.
Bb2 Ra8 54. Rd7 c6 55. Rxb7 Bd8+ 56. Kg4 Bf6 57. b4 Bd5 58. Re1 Kh7 59. b5 cxb5
60. Rxb5 Rd8 61. Rc1 Kg8 62. Rc7 Kh7 63. Rbc5 Rd6 64. Ra7 Rd8 65. Bc3 Rd6 66.
Raa5 Be4 67. d5 Rxd5 68. Rxd5 Bxc3 69. Ra3 Bxd5 70. Rxc3 Ba2 71. Kg5 Bf7 72.
Rc8 Bg8 73. Rc7 Kh8 74. Rd7 Bh7 75. Rd1 Bg8 76. Rh1+ Bh7 77. Kf4 Kg8 78. Ke5 g5
79. Rh5 g4 80. Ke6 g3 81. f6 g2 82. f7+ Kg7 83. Rg5+ Kf8 84. Rd5 g1=Q 85. Rd8+
Kg7 86. f8=Q+ Kg6 87. Qf6+ Kh5 88. Rd5+ Bf5+ 89. Rxf5+ Kg4 90. Rg5+ Kh3 91.
Qh8# {Black checkmated} 1-0

It looks like Rybka and Naum will be tied for first although I haven't seen Buchholz or SB yet.   Vas is offering Alex a challenge in the public computer chess channel for a playoff!  Alex hasn't replied (yet).  Stay tuned.
Parent - By skulibj (*) Date 2008-01-27 17:43
So a 4 game challenge just on the spot? :)
Parent - - By Venator (Silver) Date 2008-01-27 17:47
Alan must be delighted in seeing this game starting with 1.b3!

Let's hope Alexander Naumov picks up the challenge in case the blitz tourmament is cancelled, that
would be a most fitting conclusion of this great event.

I enjoyed it Nick, thanks for playing this tournament with Rybka!
Parent - - By richbell (**) Date 2008-01-27 17:57
Congrats to Rybka and Naum. I hope Alex accepts the challenge.
Parent - By skulibj (*) Date 2008-01-27 18:20
For those who dont know the tie-break is shown live here:[url=http://www.chessok.com/broadcast/live.html[/url]
Parent - - By Nick (*****) Date 2008-01-27 18:20 Edited 2008-01-27 18:24
Rybka v Naum is on.  We have time for 2 games at 50+3 time control.   The match is unofficial though and the result of CCT10 still stands.

http://www.cctchess.com

Naum is so very good now, I am a little nervous :)
Parent - By Victor Zakharov (*****) Date 2008-01-27 18:21
Parent - - By Venator (Silver) Date 2008-01-27 18:45
OK, great! And good luck of course!
Parent - - By FWCC (***) Date 2008-01-27 19:03
Could someone please post final PGN of Rybka- Naum or an as run live.
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