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In order to get H2 Expanded's analysis per position must the engine appear in the Engines list re: tab between 'Sandbox' and 'Engine Competitions.'? In that list I have Crafty, Deep Rybka, Delfi, Rybka 2, Rybka Observer and WeakDelfi. On p. 64 of the manual it mentions the Advanced Engines Options window and the Layout menu. I see neither on my Engines screen.
In this tangent the question is whether the option 'Write results into tree' might have a bearing in gaining access to H2 Expanded's analysis of a position. I would greatly appreciate someone's assistance.
Sincerely,
Pirc8
In this tangent the question is whether the option 'Write results into tree' might have a bearing in gaining access to H2 Expanded's analysis of a position. I would greatly appreciate someone's assistance.
Sincerely,
Pirc8
I am a bit confused by what you are asking. First off, h2 exanded is a tree (configuration) so if you want to be able to see one of your engines analysis of a position you need to change your tree configuration and add a column for your engine analysis (Whatever engine that you choose etc).
In your posts it seems to me that you might benefit from reading Dadi's chess cafe articles on how to use aquarium- unfortunately AQ is not the most intuitive chess gui ever invented but once you put some time into it you will be rewarded.
In your posts it seems to me that you might benefit from reading Dadi's chess cafe articles on how to use aquarium- unfortunately AQ is not the most intuitive chess gui ever invented but once you put some time into it you will be rewarded.
I was able to change the fundamental tree configuration operating with the newly installed gui from IDeA to H2 Expanded. As in the Tree/Options window H2 Exp is referred to as 'Col. 5' the move indexes appear under 'Col.5.' However I struggle greatly with issue of getting H2 Expanded to manifest in any opening position. Only yesterday did I turn off the computer after a prolonged attempt to get an 8th position opening analyzed to find in turning it back on that the position had suddenly and unexplainably become analyzed. So I'm looking for ways to get obscure opening lines (such as 1) d4 d6 2) c4 f5 ) analyzed @7th-15th move positions.
Your answer is inspiring and once again from this forum I draw that any or almost any opening position can be drawn up. I would certainly like to establish a dialogue with someone experienced and would greatly appreciate a reference to how all of those chess cafe articles can be looked at. I've seen several, none of which gave the sort of step-by-step info someone with my expertise requires.
Thanks again for responding. Sincerely, Pirc8
Your answer is inspiring and once again from this forum I draw that any or almost any opening position can be drawn up. I would certainly like to establish a dialogue with someone experienced and would greatly appreciate a reference to how all of those chess cafe articles can be looked at. I've seen several, none of which gave the sort of step-by-step info someone with my expertise requires.
Thanks again for responding. Sincerely, Pirc8
Pirc8 you can go click here and access all of Dadi Jonssons and Steve Lopez articles on idea and aquarium. The column name has been changed to ChessOK Cafe
in the ChessCafe Archives section.
click with your mouse where it says "click here" above.
in the ChessCafe Archives section.
click with your mouse where it says "click here" above.
The thing to keep in mind is that you will need to run an IDEA project to create trees for the lines you are interested in. You are not going to find a pre-prepared book that includes evaluations for all positions you might enter up to move 15 as you asked in your earlier post. The opening books cover main lines until standard middle game positions are reached and that is why you don't see anything after move 6 or 7. So if you want to go deeper you should take those positions and generate IDEA projects from them, or if you have openings/lines that are not evaluated in the opening books create IDEA projects for those.
What I do is create IDEA projects with their own trees. I also have a master tree that I export all my IDEA project results to. I added a column to my preferred tree configuration that includes the data from the Rybka book, my own IDEA project results, infinite analysis from my engines (that I save to files), and database results from Hugebase and some others. I also include the ECO code and description (where it exists). The articles people pointed you too will teach you how to customize your tree configurations to show the data you want.
You can also look at a competing program (Fritz 13) and the Let's Check feature. That is a database of infinite analysis from all their users so you can see the IA results from a variety of engines for positions people have analyzed. So you may find more analyzed positions without doing the analysis yourself. But the quality is inconsistent (different depths, different engines) and ultimately you will want to do your own analysis anyway to see how the eval changes and get a better feel for what is going on in a position. Also keep in mind that IDEA really goes a lot deeper and aggregates the results up the tree through the minimax algorithm and so you get a more realistic evaluation than you do from IA alone. IDEA also builds a tree for you that is a lot more useful than a single line from IA. I think IA is helpful for electing candidate moves to tell IDEA to how to focus its efforts on (i.e. pick several moves to color green/good to tell IDEA to spend its energy there). IA is also good in tactical situations...but IDEA will help you figure out plans.
What I do is create IDEA projects with their own trees. I also have a master tree that I export all my IDEA project results to. I added a column to my preferred tree configuration that includes the data from the Rybka book, my own IDEA project results, infinite analysis from my engines (that I save to files), and database results from Hugebase and some others. I also include the ECO code and description (where it exists). The articles people pointed you too will teach you how to customize your tree configurations to show the data you want.
You can also look at a competing program (Fritz 13) and the Let's Check feature. That is a database of infinite analysis from all their users so you can see the IA results from a variety of engines for positions people have analyzed. So you may find more analyzed positions without doing the analysis yourself. But the quality is inconsistent (different depths, different engines) and ultimately you will want to do your own analysis anyway to see how the eval changes and get a better feel for what is going on in a position. Also keep in mind that IDEA really goes a lot deeper and aggregates the results up the tree through the minimax algorithm and so you get a more realistic evaluation than you do from IA alone. IDEA also builds a tree for you that is a lot more useful than a single line from IA. I think IA is helpful for electing candidate moves to tell IDEA to how to focus its efforts on (i.e. pick several moves to color green/good to tell IDEA to spend its energy there). IA is also good in tactical situations...but IDEA will help you figure out plans.
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