WBCCC 2012: 3.3 armageddonX vs NATIONAL12 1/2

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By ChessPlanet Server Date 2012-04-01 09:45

[Event "WBCCC 2012"]
[White "armageddonX"]
[Black "NATIONAL12"]

rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1

Game 189175. In progress
[WhiteTime "30 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes"]
[BlackTime "30 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes"]
[Moves ""]

By ChessPlanet Server Date 2012-04-01 09:45

[Event "WBCCC 2012"]
[White "armageddonX"]
[Black "NATIONAL12"]

rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/5N2/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKB1R b KQkq - 0 1

Game 189175. In progress
[WhiteTime "30 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes"]
[BlackTime "30 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes"]
[Moves "1.Nf3"]

By armageddon (**)

Date 2012-04-01 10:15

Good luck and have a nice game :grin:

By NATIONAL12 (Gold)

Date 2012-04-01 10:33

likewise yourself Djordje.

By ChessPlanet Server Date 2012-04-01 10:40

[Event "WBCCC 2012"]
[White "armageddonX"]
[Black "NATIONAL12"]

rnbqkb1r/pppppppp/5n2/8/8/5N2/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKB1R w KQkq - 0 2

Game 189175. In progress
[WhiteTime "30 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes"]
[BlackTime "30 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes"]
[Moves "1.Nf3 Nf6"]

By ChessPlanet Server Date 2012-04-01 11:35

[Event "WBCCC 2012"]
[White "armageddonX"]
[Black "NATIONAL12"]

rnbqkb1r/pppppppp/5n2/8/2P5/5N2/PP1PPPPP/RNBQKB1R b KQkq - 0 2

Game 189175. In progress
[WhiteTime "30 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes"]
[BlackTime "30 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes"]
[Moves "1.Nf3 Nf6 2.c4"]

By ChessPlanet Server Date 2012-04-01 13:00

[Event "WBCCC 2012"]
[White "armageddonX"]
[Black "NATIONAL12"]

rnbqkb1r/pppppp1p/5np1/8/2P5/5N2/PP1PPPPP/RNBQKB1R w KQkq - 0 3

Game 189175. In progress
[WhiteTime "30 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes"]
[BlackTime "29 days, 23 hours, 38 minutes"]
[Moves "1.Nf3 Nf6 2.c4 g6"]

By ChessPlanet Server Date 2012-04-01 13:45

[Event "WBCCC 2012"]
[White "armageddonX"]
[Black "NATIONAL12"]

rnbqkb1r/pppppp1p/5np1/8/2P5/2N2N2/PP1PPPPP/R1BQKB1R b KQkq - 0 3

Game 189175. In progress
[WhiteTime "30 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes"]
[BlackTime "29 days, 23 hours, 38 minutes"]
[Moves "1.Nf3 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3"]

By Barnard (Bronze)

Date 2012-04-01 16:53

Good luck to both players :smile:

By ChessPlanet Server Date 2012-04-01 17:00

[Event "WBCCC 2012"]
[White "armageddonX"]
[Black "NATIONAL12"]

rnbqkb1r/ppp1pp1p/5np1/3p4/2P5/2N2N2/PP1PPPPP/R1BQKB1R w KQkq - 0 4

Game 189175. In progress
[WhiteTime "30 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes"]
[BlackTime "29 days, 21 hours, 26 minutes"]
[Moves "1.Nf3 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 d5"]

By ChessPlanet Server Date 2012-04-01 19:05

[Event "WBCCC 2012"]
[White "armageddonX"]
[Black "NATIONAL12"]

rnbqkb1r/ppp1pp1p/5np1/3p4/Q1P5/2N2N2/PP1PPPPP/R1B1KB1R b KQkq - 0 4

Game 189175. In progress
[WhiteTime "29 days, 22 hours, 56 minutes"]
[BlackTime "29 days, 21 hours, 26 minutes"]
[Moves "1.Nf3 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 d5 4.Qa4+"]

By Nelson Hernandez (Silver)

Date 2012-04-01 19:46

Black with 41.0% and 28.3% draws. Seems like a race to get out of theory.

By Kappatoo (****)

Date 2012-04-01 19:59

A race to get out of theory? This is one of the most popular Anti-Grünfeld lines; it has been played many times on a very high level.

By Nelson Hernandez (Silver)

Date 2012-04-01 20:25

Of course, but my point is that my game-count is now in the four figures and we're only on the fourth move! That's pretty quick. At this rate they will be out of book by move eight.

By Kappatoo (****)

Date 2012-04-01 20:34 Edited 2012-04-01 20:45

I guess this mainly indicates that the line is not that popular in engine games. Is that correct?

Edit: I very much doubt that they will be out of book at move 8.

By Nelson Hernandez (Silver)

Date 2012-04-01 22:55

I think you misperceive what my book is about. Engine games are maybe two thirds of what is in there.

By Uly

Date 2012-04-01 20:15

Go Paul, I hadn't realized you are playing against two new opponents in this round!

By ChessPlanet Server Date 2012-04-01 20:20

[Event "WBCCC 2012"]
[White "armageddonX"]
[Black "NATIONAL12"]

rn1qkb1r/pppbpp1p/5np1/3p4/Q1P5/2N2N2/PP1PPPPP/R1B1KB1R w KQkq - 0 5

Game 189175. In progress
[WhiteTime "29 days, 22 hours, 56 minutes"]
[BlackTime "29 days, 21 hours, 11 minutes"]
[Moves "1.Nf3 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 d5 4.Qa4+ Bd7"]

By ChessPlanet Server Date 2012-04-01 20:25

[Event "WBCCC 2012"]
[White "armageddonX"]
[Black "NATIONAL12"]

rn1qkb1r/pppbpp1p/5np1/3p4/2P5/1QN2N2/PP1PPPPP/R1B1KB1R b KQkq - 0 5

Game 189175. In progress
[WhiteTime "29 days, 23 hours, 49 minutes"]
[BlackTime "29 days, 21 hours, 11 minutes"]
[Moves "1.Nf3 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 d5 4.Qa4+ Bd7 5.Qb3"]

By Nelson Hernandez (Silver)

Date 2012-04-01 20:26

Black with 42.5% and 27.9% draws.

By ChessPlanet Server Date 2012-04-01 20:55

[Event "WBCCC 2012"]
[White "armageddonX"]
[Black "NATIONAL12"]

rn1qkb1r/pppbpp1p/5np1/8/2Q5/2N2N2/PP1PPPPP/R1B1KB1R b KQkq - 0 6

Game 189175. In progress
[WhiteTime "30 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes"]
[BlackTime "29 days, 21 hours, 42 minutes"]
[Moves "1.Nf3 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 d5 4.Qa4+ Bd7 5.Qb3 dxc4 6.Qxc4"]

By ChessPlanet Server Date 2012-04-01 21:00

[Event "WBCCC 2012"]
[White "armageddonX"]
[Black "NATIONAL12"]

rn1qkb1r/1ppbpp1p/p4np1/8/2Q5/2N2N2/PP1PPPPP/R1B1KB1R w KQkq - 0 7

Game 189175. In progress
[WhiteTime "30 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes"]
[BlackTime "29 days, 22 hours, 36 minutes"]
[Moves "1.Nf3 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 d5 4.Qa4+ Bd7 5.Qb3 dxc4 6.Qxc4 a6"]

By Nelson Hernandez (Silver)

Date 2012-04-01 22:56

White with 52.2% and 30.9 draws. A fairly uncommon position.

By ChessPlanet Server Date 2012-04-02 00:35

[Event "WBCCC 2012"]
[White "armageddonX"]
[Black "NATIONAL12"]

rn1qkb1r/1ppbpp1p/p4np1/8/2QP4/2N2N2/PP2PPPP/R1B1KB1R b KQkq - 0 7

Game 189175. In progress
[WhiteTime "29 days, 21 hours, 27 minutes"]
[BlackTime "29 days, 22 hours, 36 minutes"]
[Moves "1.Nf3 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 d5 4.Qa4+ Bd7 5.Qb3 dxc4 6.Qxc4 a6 7.d4"]

By ChessPlanet Server Date 2012-04-02 05:40

[Event "WBCCC 2012"]
[White "armageddonX"]
[Black "NATIONAL12"]

rn1qkb1r/2pbpp1p/p4np1/1p6/2QP4/2N2N2/PP2PPPP/R1B1KB1R w KQkq - 0 8

Game 189175. In progress
[WhiteTime "29 days, 21 hours, 27 minutes"]
[BlackTime "29 days, 18 hours, 32 minutes"]
[Moves "1.Nf3 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 d5 4.Qa4+ Bd7 5.Qb3 dxc4 6.Qxc4 a6 7.d4 b5"]

By ChessPlanet Server Date 2012-04-02 07:40

[Event "WBCCC 2012"]
[White "armageddonX"]
[Black "NATIONAL12"]

rn1qkb1r/2pbpp1p/p4np1/1p6/3P4/1QN2N2/PP2PPPP/R1B1KB1R b KQkq - 0 8

Game 189175. In progress
[WhiteTime "29 days, 20 hours, 29 minutes"]
[BlackTime "29 days, 18 hours, 32 minutes"]
[Moves "1.Nf3 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 d5 4.Qa4+ Bd7 5.Qb3 dxc4 6.Qxc4 a6 7.d4 b5 8.Qb3"]

By ChessPlanet Server Date 2012-04-02 11:25

[Event "WBCCC 2012"]
[White "armageddonX"]
[Black "NATIONAL12"]

rn1qk2r/2pbppbp/p4np1/1p6/3P4/1QN2N2/PP2PPPP/R1B1KB1R w KQkq - 0 9

Game 189175. In progress
[WhiteTime "29 days, 20 hours, 29 minutes"]
[BlackTime "29 days, 15 hours, 46 minutes"]
[Moves "1.Nf3 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 d5 4.Qa4+ Bd7 5.Qb3 dxc4 6.Qxc4 a6 7.d4 b5 8.Qb3 Bg7"]

By Nelson Hernandez (Silver)

Date 2012-04-02 11:52

White with 42.0% and 36.0% draws.

By ChessPlanet Server Date 2012-04-02 13:20

[Event "WBCCC 2012"]
[White "armageddonX"]
[Black "NATIONAL12"]

rn1qk2r/2pbppbp/p4np1/1p6/3PP3/1QN2N2/PP3PPP/R1B1KB1R b KQkq - 0 9

Game 189175. In progress
[WhiteTime "29 days, 19 hours, 35 minutes"]
[BlackTime "29 days, 15 hours, 46 minutes"]
[Moves "1.Nf3 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 d5 4.Qa4+ Bd7 5.Qb3 dxc4 6.Qxc4 a6 7.d4 b5 8.Qb3 Bg7 9.e4"]

By ChessPlanet Server Date 2012-04-02 14:55

[Event "WBCCC 2012"]
[White "armageddonX"]
[Black "NATIONAL12"]

r2qk2r/2pbppbp/p1n2np1/1p6/3PP3/1QN2N2/PP3PPP/R1B1KB1R w KQkq - 0 10

Game 189175. In progress
[WhiteTime "29 days, 19 hours, 35 minutes"]
[BlackTime "29 days, 15 hours, 13 minutes"]
[Moves "1.Nf3 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 d5 4.Qa4+ Bd7 5.Qb3 dxc4 6.Qxc4 a6 7.d4 b5 8.Qb3 Bg7 9.e4 Nc6"]

By ChessPlanet Server Date 2012-04-02 16:50

[Event "WBCCC 2012"]
[White "armageddonX"]
[Black "NATIONAL12"]

r2qk2r/2pbppbp/p1n2np1/1p6/3PP3/1QN1BN2/PP3PPP/R3KB1R b KQkq - 0 10

Game 189175. In progress
[WhiteTime "29 days, 18 hours, 39 minutes"]
[BlackTime "29 days, 15 hours, 13 minutes"]
[Moves "1.Nf3 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 d5 4.Qa4+ Bd7 5.Qb3 dxc4 6.Qxc4 a6 7.d4 b5 8.Qb3 Bg7 9.e4 Nc6 10.Be3"]

By Nelson Hernandez (Silver)

Date 2012-04-02 22:02

Three games left in book, two draws and a white win.

By ChessPlanet Server Date 2012-04-02 21:50

[Event "WBCCC 2012"]
[White "armageddonX"]
[Black "NATIONAL12"]

r2qk2r/2pbppbp/p1n3p1/1p6/3PP1n1/1QN1BN2/PP3PPP/R3KB1R w KQkq - 0 11

Game 189175. In progress
[WhiteTime "29 days, 18 hours, 39 minutes"]
[BlackTime "29 days, 11 hours, 10 minutes"]
[Moves "1.Nf3 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 d5 4.Qa4+ Bd7 5.Qb3 dxc4 6.Qxc4 a6 7.d4 b5 8.Qb3 Bg7 9.e4 Nc6 10.Be3 Ng4"]

By Nelson Hernandez (Silver)

Date 2012-04-02 22:03

One game left in book, Andersen-Smirnovs, 1/2-1/2, 2010.03.10.

By ChessPlanet Server Date 2012-04-03 09:15

[Event "WBCCC 2012"]
[White "armageddonX"]
[Black "NATIONAL12"]

r2qk2r/2pbppbp/p1n3p1/1p2P3/3P2n1/1QN1BN2/PP3PPP/R3KB1R b KQkq - 0 11

Game 189175. In progress
[WhiteTime "29 days, 8 hours, 17 minutes"]
[BlackTime "29 days, 11 hours, 10 minutes"]
[Moves "1.Nf3 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 d5 4.Qa4+ Bd7 5.Qb3 dxc4 6.Qxc4 a6 7.d4 b5 8.Qb3 Bg7 9.e4 Nc6 10.Be3 Ng4 11.e5"]

By ChessPlanet Server Date 2012-04-03 10:20

[Event "WBCCC 2012"]
[White "armageddonX"]
[Black "NATIONAL12"]

r2q1rk1/2pbppbp/p1n3p1/1p2P3/3P2n1/1QN1BN2/PP3PPP/R3KB1R w KQ - 0 12

Game 189175. In progress
[WhiteTime "29 days, 8 hours, 17 minutes"]
[BlackTime "29 days, 11 hours, 4 minutes"]
[Moves "1.Nf3 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 d5 4.Qa4+ Bd7 5.Qb3 dxc4 6.Qxc4 a6 7.d4 b5 8.Qb3 Bg7 9.e4 Nc6 10.Be3 Ng4 11.e5 O-O"]

By ChessPlanet Server Date 2012-04-03 11:55

[Event "WBCCC 2012"]
[White "armageddonX"]
[Black "NATIONAL12"]

r2q1rk1/2pbppbp/p1n3p1/1p2P3/3P2n1/1QN1BN2/PP2BPPP/R3K2R b KQ - 0 12

Game 189175. In progress
[WhiteTime "29 days, 7 hours, 41 minutes"]
[BlackTime "29 days, 11 hours, 4 minutes"]
[Moves "1.Nf3 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 d5 4.Qa4+ Bd7 5.Qb3 dxc4 6.Qxc4 a6 7.d4 b5 8.Qb3 Bg7 9.e4 Nc6 10.Be3 Ng4 11.e5 O-O 12.Be2"]

By Scott

Date 2012-04-03 13:44

Looks pretty even IMO on the eve of the big battle...

By ChessPlanet Server Date 2012-04-03 13:45

[Event "WBCCC 2012"]
[White "armageddonX"]
[Black "NATIONAL12"]

r2q1rk1/2p1ppbp/p1n3p1/1p2Pb2/3P2n1/1QN1BN2/PP2BPPP/R3K2R w KQ - 0 13

Game 189175. In progress
[WhiteTime "29 days, 7 hours, 41 minutes"]
[BlackTime "29 days, 10 hours, 18 minutes"]
[Moves "1.Nf3 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 d5 4.Qa4+ Bd7 5.Qb3 dxc4 6.Qxc4 a6 7.d4 b5 8.Qb3 Bg7 9.e4 Nc6 10.Be3 Ng4 11.e5 O-O 12.Be2 Bf5"]

By ChessPlanet Server Date 2012-04-03 14:00

[Event "WBCCC 2012"]
[White "armageddonX"]
[Black "NATIONAL12"]

r2q1rk1/2p1ppbp/p1n3p1/1p2Pb2/3P2n1/1QN1BN2/PP2BPPP/3RK2R b K - 0 13

Game 189175. In progress
[WhiteTime "29 days, 8 hours, 23 minutes"]
[BlackTime "29 days, 10 hours, 18 minutes"]
[Moves "1.Nf3 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 d5 4.Qa4+ Bd7 5.Qb3 dxc4 6.Qxc4 a6 7.d4 b5 8.Qb3 Bg7 9.e4 Nc6 10.Be3 Ng4 11.e5 O-O 12.Be2 Bf5 13.Rd1"]

By Nelson Hernandez (Silver)

Date 2012-04-03 20:37

Transposing back into a slightly more common position...six games in book, all draws.

By ChessPlanet Server Date 2012-04-03 17:10

[Event "WBCCC 2012"]
[White "armageddonX"]
[Black "NATIONAL12"]

r2q1rk1/2p1ppbp/p1n3p1/1p2Pb2/3P4/1QN1nN2/PP2BPPP/3RK2R w K - 0 14

Game 189175. In progress
[WhiteTime "29 days, 8 hours, 23 minutes"]
[BlackTime "29 days, 8 hours, 12 minutes"]
[Moves "1.Nf3 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 d5 4.Qa4+ Bd7 5.Qb3 dxc4 6.Qxc4 a6 7.d4 b5 8.Qb3 Bg7 9.e4 Nc6 10.Be3 Ng4 11.e5 O-O 12.Be2 Bf5 13.Rd1 Nxe3"]

By Nelson Hernandez (Silver)

Date 2012-04-03 20:38

Back to one game in book, this one Rybka 3-Naum 4, 1/2-1/2, CEGT 40/120, 2009.01.29.

By ChessPlanet Server Date 2012-04-03 21:05

[Event "WBCCC 2012"]
[White "armageddonX"]
[Black "NATIONAL12"]

r2q1rk1/2p1ppbp/p1n3p1/1p2Pb2/3P4/1QN1PN2/PP2B1PP/3RK2R b K - 0 14

Game 189175. In progress
[WhiteTime "29 days, 5 hours, 25 minutes"]
[BlackTime "29 days, 8 hours, 12 minutes"]
[Moves "1.Nf3 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 d5 4.Qa4+ Bd7 5.Qb3 dxc4 6.Qxc4 a6 7.d4 b5 8.Qb3 Bg7 9.e4 Nc6 10.Be3 Ng4 11.e5 O-O 12.Be2 Bf5 13.Rd1 Nxe3 14.fxe3"]

By ChessPlanet Server Date 2012-04-03 21:25

[Event "WBCCC 2012"]
[White "armageddonX"]
[Black "NATIONAL12"]

r2q1rk1/2p1ppbp/p5p1/np2Pb2/3P4/1QN1PN2/PP2B1PP/3RK2R w K - 0 15

Game 189175. In progress
[WhiteTime "29 days, 5 hours, 25 minutes"]
[BlackTime "29 days, 8 hours, 52 minutes"]
[Moves "1.Nf3 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 d5 4.Qa4+ Bd7 5.Qb3 dxc4 6.Qxc4 a6 7.d4 b5 8.Qb3 Bg7 9.e4 Nc6 10.Be3 Ng4 11.e5 O-O 12.Be2 Bf5 13.Rd1 Nxe3 14.fxe3 Na5"]

By ChessPlanet Server Date 2012-04-03 22:10

[Event "WBCCC 2012"]
[White "armageddonX"]
[Black "NATIONAL12"]

r2q1rk1/2p1ppbp/p5p1/np2Pb2/3P4/Q1N1PN2/PP2B1PP/3RK2R b K - 0 15

Game 189175. In progress
[WhiteTime "29 days, 5 hours, 45 minutes"]
[BlackTime "29 days, 8 hours, 52 minutes"]
[Moves "1.Nf3 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 d5 4.Qa4+ Bd7 5.Qb3 dxc4 6.Qxc4 a6 7.d4 b5 8.Qb3 Bg7 9.e4 Nc6 10.Be3 Ng4 11.e5 O-O 12.Be2 Bf5 13.Rd1 Nxe3 14.fxe3 Na5 15.Qa3"]

By ChessPlanet Server Date 2012-04-03 23:20

[Event "WBCCC 2012"]
[White "armageddonX"]
[Black "NATIONAL12"]

r2q1rk1/4ppbp/p1p3p1/np2Pb2/3P4/Q1N1PN2/PP2B1PP/3RK2R w K - 0 16

Game 189175. In progress
[WhiteTime "29 days, 5 hours, 45 minutes"]
[BlackTime "29 days, 8 hours, 39 minutes"]
[Moves "1.Nf3 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 d5 4.Qa4+ Bd7 5.Qb3 dxc4 6.Qxc4 a6 7.d4 b5 8.Qb3 Bg7 9.e4 Nc6 10.Be3 Ng4 11.e5 O-O 12.Be2 Bf5 13.Rd1 Nxe3 14.fxe3 Na5 15.Qa3 c6"]

By Nelson Hernandez (Silver)

Date 2012-04-05 01:34

A couple of more games have transposed onto this line. Now three games left, all draws.

By ChessPlanet Server Date 2012-04-05 03:40

[Event "WBCCC 2012"]
[White "armageddonX"]
[Black "NATIONAL12"]

r2q1rk1/4ppbp/p1p3p1/np2Pb2/3P4/Q1N1PN2/PP2B1PP/3R1RK1 b - - 0 16

Game 189175. In progress
[WhiteTime "28 days, 2 hours, 29 minutes"]
[BlackTime "29 days, 8 hours, 39 minutes"]
[Moves "1.Nf3 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 d5 4.Qa4+ Bd7 5.Qb3 dxc4 6.Qxc4 a6 7.d4 b5 8.Qb3 Bg7 9.e4 Nc6 10.Be3 Ng4 11.e5 O-O 12.Be2 Bf5 13.Rd1 Nxe3 14.fxe3 Na5 15.Qa3 c6 16.O-O"]

By ChessPlanet Server Date 2012-04-05 09:45

[Event "WBCCC 2012"]
[White "armageddonX"]
[Black "NATIONAL12"]

r2q1rk1/4pp1p/p1p3pb/np2Pb2/3P4/Q1N1PN2/PP2B1PP/3R1RK1 w - - 0 17

Game 189175. In progress
[WhiteTime "28 days, 2 hours, 29 minutes"]
[BlackTime "29 days, 3 hours, 30 minutes"]
[Moves "1.Nf3 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 d5 4.Qa4+ Bd7 5.Qb3 dxc4 6.Qxc4 a6 7.d4 b5 8.Qb3 Bg7 9.e4 Nc6 10.Be3 Ng4 11.e5 O-O 12.Be2 Bf5 13.Rd1 Nxe3 14.fxe3 Na5 15.Qa3 c6 16.O-O Bh6"]

Topic The Rybka Lounge / WBCCC 2012 / WBCCC 2012: 3.3 armageddonX vs NATIONAL12 1/2 - 1/2

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