I'd like to contact the NYT and tell them the scandalous news about the innocent Rybka and its author, from the perspective of the pro-Vas VII side.
Is there someone who would do an expert summary since I am a lay and overall no good writer in American English? However it is necessary that the case Hyatt is also described with the whole evil distortions.
Such a report or even several contributions wont be edited by me of course, it could well come out that I wont be writing anything at all. But we should do something. Any ideas? - Thanks.
Is there someone who would do an expert summary since I am a lay and overall no good writer in American English? However it is necessary that the case Hyatt is also described with the whole evil distortions.
Such a report or even several contributions wont be edited by me of course, it could well come out that I wont be writing anything at all. But we should do something. Any ideas? - Thanks.
You might want to try:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10725415
http://edition.cnn.com/feedback/show/?s=newstip
Not sure if it works.
Here is some text....
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ICGA VENDETTA BLASTED
Dr. David Levy, head of the International Computer Games Association (ICGA), has come under fire in a 14,000-word refutation of his organization’s controversial June 2011 decision to strip American chess programmer Vasik Rajlich of four world championship titles won in ICGA-sponsored World Computer Chess Championship (WCCC) tournaments and ban him for life.
WCCC tournaments have for over three decades decided which chess program is the world’s strongest. Five years after Rajlich won his first of four consecutive titles the ICGA alleged Rajlich’s chess program, called Rybka, was not fully original and had copied source code from Fruit, a chess program developed by Fabien Letouzey of France.
The blistering response to the ICGA’s actions is written by Dr. Soren Riis, a mathematician at Queen Mary University of London. Riis makes the case that the ICGA’s allegation of “plagiarism”, as well as the points they offered in support of their accusation, are completely without merit. Combining facts with indignation, Riis offers detailed evidence that the ICGA’s charges were based on false premises, tendentious conclusions and manipulated evidence.
He speculates that the chief motivating factor behind the persecution of Rajlich was his domination of computer chess programming in 2005-2010, during which time his program Rybka almost invariably annihilated other programs in public tournaments.
Riis points out that the people who voted for the Rajlich ban were direct beneficiaries and actually picked up his vacant titles, collateral which they now use to market their own chess engines. Riis further observes that Rajlich’s program, which is vastly stronger than the IBM’s Deep Blue chess computer that defeated then-world champion Garry Kasparov in 1997, has been one of the most influential chess programs in history, and if anything, it is Rybka that has been systematically reverse-engineered and plagiarized.
Riis states that justice can only be served if the ICGA publishes a retraction of their accusations and restores Rybka’s world championship titles, concluding his defense by extolling Rajlich as “a great chess programmer, world champion and innocent man.”
Full coverage at: http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=7791
Technical refutation at : http://www.top-5000.nl/Rybka.htm
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10725415
http://edition.cnn.com/feedback/show/?s=newstip
Not sure if it works.
Here is some text....
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
ICGA VENDETTA BLASTED
Dr. David Levy, head of the International Computer Games Association (ICGA), has come under fire in a 14,000-word refutation of his organization’s controversial June 2011 decision to strip American chess programmer Vasik Rajlich of four world championship titles won in ICGA-sponsored World Computer Chess Championship (WCCC) tournaments and ban him for life.
WCCC tournaments have for over three decades decided which chess program is the world’s strongest. Five years after Rajlich won his first of four consecutive titles the ICGA alleged Rajlich’s chess program, called Rybka, was not fully original and had copied source code from Fruit, a chess program developed by Fabien Letouzey of France.
The blistering response to the ICGA’s actions is written by Dr. Soren Riis, a mathematician at Queen Mary University of London. Riis makes the case that the ICGA’s allegation of “plagiarism”, as well as the points they offered in support of their accusation, are completely without merit. Combining facts with indignation, Riis offers detailed evidence that the ICGA’s charges were based on false premises, tendentious conclusions and manipulated evidence.
He speculates that the chief motivating factor behind the persecution of Rajlich was his domination of computer chess programming in 2005-2010, during which time his program Rybka almost invariably annihilated other programs in public tournaments.
Riis points out that the people who voted for the Rajlich ban were direct beneficiaries and actually picked up his vacant titles, collateral which they now use to market their own chess engines. Riis further observes that Rajlich’s program, which is vastly stronger than the IBM’s Deep Blue chess computer that defeated then-world champion Garry Kasparov in 1997, has been one of the most influential chess programs in history, and if anything, it is Rybka that has been systematically reverse-engineered and plagiarized.
Riis states that justice can only be served if the ICGA publishes a retraction of their accusations and restores Rybka’s world championship titles, concluding his defense by extolling Rajlich as “a great chess programmer, world champion and innocent man.”
Full coverage at: http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=7791
Technical refutation at : http://www.top-5000.nl/Rybka.htm
Well, just did it myself, contributed the text to both CNN and BBC. If some of you do the same, either the text or in your own words maybe it will be picked up.
> Well, just did it myself, contributed the text to both CNN and BBC. If some of you do the same, either the text or in your own words maybe it will be picked up.
Harvey works for the BBC, I think in the News area. If it gets anywhere near him, he will just tell them to ignore it.
BTW thanks Ed so far. Ray, you can see it the other way round. The more panelsts like Bob Hyatt and Harvey W. are cheating and manipulating, they are digging their own grave. But it's important that the case is kept in the open. Of course Levy would prefer that we would stay silent. It's also not the question if it "works" right now. If they ignore it now it will cost them much more later. As I said, I wished that these guys come crawling on their knees in shame. Therefore Vas must not run amok under no circumstances. I see alternative if Friedel, who was always a close partner of Levy, could work out a sort of agreement in favor of Vas. The dirty panelists collecting enough money and Vas forgives them their ignorance! Of course Hyatt also has to bleed for his endless insults against Ed and Trotsky.
A special medal of fairness for Amir Ban not to forget!
A special medal of fairness for Amir Ban not to forget!
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Maybe it would be good to contakt heise. They reported about Rybka: http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Schachcomputer-Weltmeister-nachtraeglich-disqualifiziert-1271033.html. They make Germany's best computer magazine (c't) - and some of their editors have the expertise to understand your documents.
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I really don't think they would be interested. Maybe not too long after it happened, but not now. It's been done elsewhere and in more depth so I can't see why they would bother. Besides, the "pro-Vas" side is all that's gotten covered of late.
Hi Rolf,
Here is the man to contact at the Times.
Dylan Loeb McClain
I sent you a PM on how to email him.
Here is the man to contact at the Times.
Dylan Loeb McClain
I sent you a PM on how to email him.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/03/crosswords/chess/developer-of-computer-chess-champ-accused-of-stealing-code.html
McClain has already done a piece on the controverly, less than a year ago. He might be up for a 'part 2'.
McClain has already done a piece on the controverly, less than a year ago. He might be up for a 'part 2'.
I am going to support this initiative.
No surrender!
No surrender!
Why not...Vas decided to.
Alright...I hear the cat-calls already. All I'm saying is he basically doesn't seem to care too much...not enough to fight anyway. One could say that either the man is a saint or knows in his heart he skirted the rules.
Alright...I hear the cat-calls already. All I'm saying is he basically doesn't seem to care too much...not enough to fight anyway. One could say that either the man is a saint or knows in his heart he skirted the rules.
He's neither a saint nor did he skirt the rules.
With time it's the same as with money: you can only spend it once. In his eyes fighting instead of developing Rybka 5 isn't worth the time.
With time it's the same as with money: you can only spend it once. In his eyes fighting instead of developing Rybka 5 isn't worth the time.
I would say 'saint' then. Because I am not sure he was doing much in the way of "developing Rybka 5" during that time. By all accounts, his chess interest lay in the Cluster. Only more recently has he started talking about Rybka 5. Even back then you have to admit he kept kinda to himself for quite some time. The natural reaction of an innocent man would be to strike back in some form or fashion at a personal injustice that was all the talk at...well, places like this website. That's what I'm getting at. I'll chalk one in the 'saint' column for you.
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Yes, it is about time that this injustice be fixed. Personally I would have liked to see a defamation lawsuit by Vas against Levy ... that would go a long way in correcting the injustice.
> I'd like to contact the NYT and tell them the scandalous news about the innocent Rybka and its author, from the perspective of the pro-Vas VII side.
Do you really think this makes sense?
Even Vas doesn't want to defend himself with provable arguments. It's not important enough, or too many reproches are more or less correct. So what?
Vas seems to accept the fact: "Some dislike him and Rybka as they did ever. They now shout 'we have reasons to do so!' And other customers like Rybka and they will buy R5, if it will be strong enough."
Vas problem is not the furiously scolding ICGA and it's laughed at tounament of 3rd-class-engines.
His problem is Houdini and other so called 'clones'.
Only if he can reach and overcome the Houdini-strength Rybka again will have that sounding name as it had for many years.
A place-2- oder place-3-Rybka will lead her to oblivion.
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I think it is a mistake to confuse this entire issue as an effort focused on vindicating Vasik Rajlich/Rybka-although , that is certainly a facet of it.
The greater problem here is the ICGA's debacle in sponsoring this gross injustice- and especially in allowing a hater such as Hyatt to run the show. Hyatt's cronyism -using the ICGA as a weapon against his enemies has made him an anathema to the computer chess hobby.
In so saying, it is important to continue to bring into focus the ICGA's actions and have its actions reviewed by the greater majority of the public.
The greater problem here is the ICGA's debacle in sponsoring this gross injustice- and especially in allowing a hater such as Hyatt to run the show. Hyatt's cronyism -using the ICGA as a weapon against his enemies has made him an anathema to the computer chess hobby.
In so saying, it is important to continue to bring into focus the ICGA's actions and have its actions reviewed by the greater majority of the public.
LOL the audience that would enjoy/care about the article would be very very very small. i.e. not worth doing.
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