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- - By Regularuser (***) [gb] Date 2012-03-07 11:29
No chess benchmarks and sadly no overclocking benchmarks, but still interesting reads.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5553/the-xeon-e52600-dual-sandybridge-for-servers

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5626/ivy-bridge-preview-core-i7-3770k
Parent - - By Labyrinth (****) [us] Date 2012-03-07 13:11 Edited 2012-03-07 13:15
That ivy bridge power benchmark is most impressive. Nearly the performance of the 3960x but with half the power under load.

Plus someone overclocked it to 7 GHz?! Holy hell. I take that to mean it will be pretty overclockable.

Also the Xeon 2690 looks awesome!!
Parent - By Regularuser (***) [gb] Date 2012-03-07 13:25
It has always been my big hope the Ivy Bridge will be very overclockable.

The 7GHz was obtained with dry ice.  I am waiting to see air/water overclocks.
Parent - By Sedat Canbaz (****) [tr] Date 2012-03-08 14:43 Edited 2012-03-08 14:47
We have already some data about the latest Xeon Sandy Bridge processors,but the Fritz bench results are with Hyper-Threading ON

For example,the Fritz Chess Benchmark on E5-2680 3099 MHz HT ON 16 Threads:20.962 nodes per second

I expect on Xeon E5-2680 3099 MHz HT OFF 8 Cores to be performed minimum 17.000 nodes per second

For more details:
http://wccftech.com/intel-xeon-sandy-bridgeep-e52680-benchmarked-detailed/

Best,
Sedat
- - By mocha1961 (***) [us] Date 2012-03-07 14:26
Maybe this would interest anyone with money is no issue. :cool:

Case (Chassis):  Enermax Fulmo GT
CaseLighting:  CaseLighting: Blue
Case Fans:  Gentle Typhoon High-Performance Ultra Silent Fans
Processor:  Dual Overclocked Intel XEON E5-2687W Octo-Core Processors (20MB L3 Cache) Extended Lead Time
Memory:  32GB Kingston ECC Registered DDR3 1333MHz (4x8GB)
Graphics Card:  Single 1GB GDDR3 NVIDIA Quadro 600
System Cooling:  Dual  120mm Sealed Liquid Cooling Systems
Power Supply:  1.5 Kilowatt Silverstone Strider
Motherboard:  EVGA SRX
Hard Drive One:  120GB Intel 520 Series - Solid State Drive
Hard Drive Two:  2TB Western Digital Caviar Black SATA 6.0Gb/s, 7200RPM, 64MB Cache HDD
Optical Drive One:  24X CD/DVD burner (DVD+/-RW) w/double layer write capability
Operating System:  Genuine MS Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit Edition
Warranty:  1 Year Part Replacement and 45 Day Free Shipping Warranty with DVD image and Lifetime Labor/24-7 Support
Security Software: Microsoft Security Essentials - Free
Cloud Power: Microsoft Windows Live Essentials 2011
Total: $7,409.00
Parent - - By Regularuser (***) [gb] Date 2012-03-07 14:35
Does the supplier say what they will overclock them to?

Or what the extended lead time will be?

(both out of accademic interest as I will buy a more modest Ivy Bridge assuimng they overcock as well as I hope)
Parent - By KameHameHaaaa (**) [br] Date 2012-03-07 16:38


Parent - - By mocha1961 (***) [us] Date 2012-03-08 12:14
@Regularuser

this is what i got from their response.

Currently the lead time for the Genesis Pro X2 is up to April 20th. The final overclocking numbers will be announced before that date. If you wish to place an order the engineers will keep you up to data on the overclocking data and you can choose to remain with overclocking or use the default clock speed.
Parent - By Regularuser (***) [gb] Date 2012-03-08 12:20
Thanks.   I'll await the overclocking results with great interest.
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2012-03-08 00:43
i think you will find that when Ivy Bridge is released,best i can see atm is 2x 8 cpu hope for 2x 10,my friend BigBen will build it and overclock it to the death.When Tony does his builds for me he posts everything on forum with screenshots ect.Lets just wait and see.Dont quote silly specs at me on what i should buy.:smile:
i mean no offence.
Also watch Majid,he may build even better than Tony and i but we have fun doing it and arn't rivals.

we have fun building big computers same as Lukas does and to put it crudely he is the govenor atm.:smile:
Parent - - By Bouddha (****) [ch] Date 2012-03-08 05:17
I am wondering if Lukas is planning to buy some of these to update/upgrade his cluster ?
Parent - - By Lukas Cimiotti (Bronze) [de] Date 2012-03-09 15:49
For Rybka a 2x E5-2687W computer will be roughly 14% faster than a 2x X5690 assuming it will run at 3.3 GHz with turbo. It will consume roughly 15% more energy. And the CPUs will cost more (15-30%).  This doesn't sound like a good deal.
Parent - - By Bouddha (****) [ch] Date 2012-03-09 22:48
Is the x5690 will still exist or is it replaced by the new E5 ?

Do you know if we can expect a price decrease for a x5650 ?
Parent - By Lukas Cimiotti (Bronze) [de] Date 2012-03-10 08:17
Intel's policy is to never lower prices of old Xeons. The X5690 will probably be available for at least 2 years.
Parent - - By David Evans (***) [gb] Date 2012-03-08 06:23
the sandybridge and the ivybridge xeon cannot be overclocked sorry guys..............
Parent - - By Werewolf (*****) [gb] Date 2012-03-08 14:21

> the sandybridge and the ivybridge xeon cannot be overclocked sorry guys.............


how do you know? Do you have a link?
Parent - - By David Evans (***) [gb] Date 2012-03-08 15:16
i have sandybridge e5 atm and iam told by a source the ivybridge xeons will be the same everything locked...
Parent - - By Werewolf (*****) [gb] Date 2012-03-08 16:03

> i have sandybridge e5 atm


How did you get it so early? The Ivy Bridge Xeons are due out...when? Later this year?

This is TERRIBLE news that they cannot be overclocked!! Intel is being annoying.
Parent - - By David Evans (***) [gb] Date 2012-03-08 16:41
Ivy Bridge Xeons will be the back end of 2012

Iam running my sandybridges on this board the board over clocks the cpus dont so a real nightmare..

http://uk.asus.com/Server_Workstation/Workstation_Motherboards/Z9PED8_WS/

Board is nice shame the cpus are locked
Parent - - By Werewolf (*****) [gb] Date 2012-03-08 17:08
I've read a number of companies are releasing over-clockable boards for the E5 Xeon. Since ASUS etc aren't idiots, they must have a reason to do this.

Do you think Intel may release an unlocked CPU later?
Parent - - By David Evans (***) [gb] Date 2012-03-08 17:56
Not sure if intelk will or not but with turbo 2 on the xeons they still reach decent speeds for chess.

Maybe we will just have to accept this.
Parent - By Werewolf (*****) [gb] Date 2012-03-08 18:31

> Not sure if intelk will or not but with turbo 2 on the xeons they still reach decent speeds for chess.


But that's bad - the old dual Xeon westmeres/gulftowns (6 cores each) will be faster since they can be overclocked to 4.2 Ghz or so.

aaargh.
Parent - - By Werewolf (*****) [gb] Date 2012-03-10 09:12

> Not sure if intelk will or not but with turbo 2 on the xeons they still reach decent speeds for chess.


But does turbo 2 make ALL cores go faster at the same time? I thought turbo mode worked by raising the speed of a few cores if the rest were inactive.

Since chess engines will use all cores simultaneously....does Turbo mode help?
Parent - By David Evans (***) [gb] Date 2012-03-11 12:09
Turbo speeds works across all cores but at a lower speed works lout about 300 to 400 mhz on top of stock speeds the 2.9 cpu runs turbo all cores at 3.4
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2012-03-09 00:34
i have asked my source about this,i cannot believe that you will be unable to o/c Ivy Bridge.
Parent - By David Evans (***) [gb] Date 2012-03-09 06:40
Seems intel will push further turbo on the sandybridge we have turbo 2.............
Parent - - By tano-urayoan (****) [pr] Date 2012-03-12 01:06 Edited 2012-03-12 01:08

>how do you know? Do you have a link?


This is from EVGA forum.
"Sad part is, unlike the SR-2, the SR-X is limited by the cpu for overclocking.

http://www.evga.com/forums/fb.ashx?m=1485672

Quote from their Product Manager.
Quote :
Well there are 2 parts to this question...

Does the board support OC'ing: Yes

Does the board support OC'ing on current CPU's? The answer unfortunately is no.

Current CPU's are multiplier locked, and they don't scale very high on bclock."
Parent - By Werewolf (*****) [gb] Date 2012-03-12 07:22

> This is from EVGA forum.
> "Sad part is, unlike the SR-2, the SR-X is limited by the cpu for overclocking.


This is what happens when one company gets a monopoly. Intel have a bag of goodies they don't want to share because no one is making them.
Parent - - By mocha1961 (***) [us] Date 2012-03-08 12:05
@National12

Dont quote silly specs at me on what i should buy
i dont remember mentioning any names on who should buy. :twisted:
Parent - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2012-03-08 12:33
ok,fair enough.:smile:
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