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> Nature has provided beauty and power to males
You keep saying that, doesn't make it true. I claim women also have power and beauty. How can you show women don't have power nor beauty?
>There bodies are different
The bodies are mostly identical with key physical differences, mostly related to body functions and fluids, different organs, and how things are processed by the nervous system, but you are only focusing in the differences!
I'm going to show you with images the flaw in your concept.
You say comparing women and men is like comparing oranges and apples. Well then, let's compare:
Which one is which? Is there any doubt that the one on the left is an apple and the one on the right is an orange? No. Okay, now:
Is this the hand of a man or a woman?
This eye belongs to a male or a female?
What about this feet?
Or even this child??
Not so easy when I get rid of the visual cues, huh? The main parts of the body, such as the limbs, vital organs, and what makes us human is identical, but you only focus on the differences.
There's also social differences but they've been taught from generation to generation and learned, they're not natural.
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>You keep saying that, doesn't make it true.
I am saying the truth and so it stands.
>I claim women also have power and beauty.
Did I say no ? or wrong ? No I didn't. I said in general and as compared to male. Males have more more power and are beatiful and for me its the special talents or features. And I have already mentioned it.
Peacock is more beautiful than peahen ( dont have the beautiful feathers.) ,Lion is more beautiful than lioness ( Due to mane ), Only male cuckoos sing not females. Thats how Nature defines beauty and me too. No one in the world can deny it as its the truth . Doesnot matter i say it or don't.
>How can you show women don't have power nor beauty?
I already Told you the differences of power. A male can lift more weight than a female of same age. Tell me true or false ? So male has more Physical power and its natural. Women as more supple. They make good gymnasts than male. Its not power its suppleness.
Just thats why I asked you to compare a male and female bodybuilder and u didn't answer. As u too know the answer.
Its not that female don't have power but not that male have. Like endurance power. There are more diseases for females than males. Why ? As their is superior than male. Thats its its natural.
>The bodies are mostly identical with key physical differences, mostly related to body functions and fluids, different organs, and how things are processed by the nervous system, but you are only focusing in the differences!
Damn I was talking that only.Look I am only taking the factors that make a male a male and female a female. So dont make me put the pictures of genetials and ask you which one is male and female?
So wipe out general things as I told you before as humans all are same. U r showing me both are fruits but I am telling you why orange cannot be apple and vice-versa. Come to my point don't compare bogus things like eyes, hands , legs .....Thats not our discussion. Come to the differences. There are many. Apart from Human point of view ( exclude common things that all animals in world share ) then argue and I will prove you wrong as its the fact.
Most things in males and females are different apart from their sex organs.
lets Start with Brain Read here.
Although many times both come to same results they think and use brain differently. I knew it already as I told you I read a whole bunch of studies on it. Its time u too know it.
Go here for a better understanding. And dont show me pictures for it. Think yourself. Symmetry in asymmetry.
Well ...
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Om dream on you are totally wrong!
Stealing a phrase of Rúben Comes and applying it here, "you're the foremost proponent of sexism."
But what does that mean ?
I think you need a:
Hey I am not Gay and don't need those test. I have always kept girls at my fingertips and never gave priority to them. They Give to me always.
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I can recommend a good book:
"Why Beautiful People Have More Daughters" by http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satoshi_Kanazawa
The theory on beauty (and I think it's a good one) says that we look for mates that will give us healthy offspring. The hallmarks of a beautiful woman (hourglass figure etc) typically lead to more healthy children.
Men are selected both for their healthy genes and also for their ability to provide for the children, which is why you see beautiful young girls with older richer men.
Human females can have maybe 30 children maximum in a lifetime and males can spawn thousands (given the chance) which is why (from a natural selection standpoint) females are more important than the males and get to select them. Which is why the males need to attract the females more than the females need to attract the males.
It's an interesting book, clearly explaining the origin of the phrase "Mummy's baby, daddy's maybe" and why children tend to get their fathers eyes.
"Why Beautiful People Have More Daughters" by http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satoshi_Kanazawa
The theory on beauty (and I think it's a good one) says that we look for mates that will give us healthy offspring. The hallmarks of a beautiful woman (hourglass figure etc) typically lead to more healthy children.
Men are selected both for their healthy genes and also for their ability to provide for the children, which is why you see beautiful young girls with older richer men.
Human females can have maybe 30 children maximum in a lifetime and males can spawn thousands (given the chance) which is why (from a natural selection standpoint) females are more important than the males and get to select them. Which is why the males need to attract the females more than the females need to attract the males.
It's an interesting book, clearly explaining the origin of the phrase "Mummy's baby, daddy's maybe" and why children tend to get their fathers eyes.
Thanks Nick, it makes sense.
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>Human females can have maybe 30 children maximum in a lifetime
Only 30?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUspLVStPbk
Heh, no comment I did think of a witty reply but that would have been lacking in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_intelligence
I did think of a witty reply but that would have been lacking in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_intelligence
Actually a human female can lay eggs about 600. So if 12 eggs per year and first cycle starts at age 12 then menopause occurs at age 62. But on Average women get it at age 55-60.
I always thought laying eggs was done by chicken, not humans
Chickens are externally done and humans internally.
>I also think it's the way of the future, fewer and fewer are the woman that tolerate male chauvinism, and I think it's an improvement on society.
women liberation is the downfall of society.
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I totally agree with you Nelson, now if I could only get you to convince my wife on all that!
Its easy to convince them.
You'd be amazed at the long list of mundane chores I do not do.
I'd be amazed only if it were longer than my list!
I'd be amazed only if it were longer than my list!
Well, you might be amazed, because I literally don't do any of them. The good news is that my requirements are few. If they weren't I'd need to hire help.
Remember when George Bush the elder went into the supermarket in 1992 and was amazed by the bar scanners at the checkout? So was I when I saw this on TV! I have no idea what fantastic new technology they are using in supermarkets these days. I do sometimes change a light bulb that has burnt out, but only if there is a serious risk of bodily harm, and after carefully considering the relative effort required to call in help.
I visit the supermarket about once a year, usually when my wife cannot be in two critical places at the same time. I have never tried and am baffled by the concept of "self check-out". I don't get that at all, why would anyone prefer to run items over a bar code reader when someone else, far more skilled at it, can do it for you AND pack your items? Seems senseless to me. Also, whenever they ask me if I have my little supermarket whatchamacallit so I can get a nice discount I always tell them in a clear voice, "I insist on paying full retail prices." I invariably get looks like I'm a dangerous maniac.
I'll bet I do less than you. My life is quite binary: 1 or 0. At work or on the road, I'm 1. At home, I'm 0. This energy-saving approach will definitely extend my service life.
I'll bet I do less than you. My life is quite binary: 1 or 0. At work or on the road, I'm 1. At home, I'm 0. This energy-saving approach will definitely extend my service life.
>I have never tried and am baffled by the concept of "self check-out".
I don't mind the idea, because a lot of the time I want no human interaction when I go to the store.
It's really only good if you have a few items, which if that's all you need one could argue that you just made a mistake and left something out from your "main" grocery trip.
One big problem I have with them though is that a lot of them have very loud voice instructions (which of course I don't need).
>Also, whenever they ask me if I have my little supermarket whatchamacallit so I can get a nice discount I always tell them in a clear voice, "I insist on paying full retail prices." I invariably get looks like I'm a dangerous maniac.
This behavior makes you suspicious of being a terrorist as you don't allow them collecting your data
(Head slap.) Of course that's it! I'm "opting out" of the intelligence net! Oh man, put the store camera on that guy and call security!
well,1 % can be psycho,but you can have at least 10 % of your other wifes to be bodyguards Nelson
A Praetorian Guard to protect me against the others! I still don't like the plan. Too dangerous!
the better 'protector' is who knows all about the enemy...and im sure no one knows how is a woman better than another woman Nelson
The traditional options simply make more sense. One wife, or one wife with one or more mistresses if you are so inclined and have a lot of money and can handle the logistic complications. It has been done that way for thousands of years. It seems serviceable.
mistresses?not Nelson,im not in favor of cheating and hide anything to my wife...why i must hide it?im in favour to have,lets say,15 wifes,for example...of course,they must maintain me...and all of us must be friends
so have sex all the days of the month,and if one wife cheats you,simply you will fire she,and get another one of course,with a lot of respect for the women
so have sex all the days of the month,and if one wife cheats you,simply you will fire she,and get another one
of course,with a lot of respect for the women
Once again, the forum is besmirched with cheating aspersions!
I ask all these people if they would be happy if their wife cheated on them behind their backs, as in, they wouldn't even know it.
What would they think of a woman with the concept of "1 husband and 2 lovers"?
What would they think of a woman with the concept of "1 husband and 2 lovers"?
There is an adultery website in the U.S. (I won't list it here) that I read in the newspaper the other day has 38,000 subscribers...in the Washington, DC region alone! I tell you, nothing like it has been seen since Gommorah, and we know how that ended!
>I ask all these people if they would be happy if their wife cheated on them behind their backs, as in, they wouldn't even know it.
As far as I know , from a survey , women cheat more than men.
Out of all female species Human females are totally special. Other female species when ovulate show signs of ovulation through there bodies, either by hormone secretion or by symptoms like reddening of butts etc, but there is no way one can know the ovulation of a woman except herself. So there is no way to know that woman has cheated until u do a DNA test. So who is the father of the son can only be answered by the mother not any male in the world.
Its nature rule of 1 male and many females. You wont find the other way true except in human females now a days.
> As far as I know , from a survey , women cheat more than men.
Actually, it's the other way around, the myth is that men cheat more than woman. In reality, they cheat about the same:
http://www.askmen.com/dating/heidi_200/222_dating_girl.html
>Its nature rule of 1 male and many females. You wont find the other way true except in human females now a days.
There are 100 woman for every 98 men, that doesn't sound as a significant difference:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_sex_ratio
>Actually, it's the other way around, the myth is that men cheat more than woman. In reality, they cheat about the same:
As a human that should be same. But that's not the correct survey. I 1 year back read about that flaws in that survey. The problem was when women think they are not in a relationship with some internally they think they are not cheating.!! where as male dont think like that. Even if they are not in a relation they still most of the time dont create new ones ( with an inertia of previous relationship) just not to cheat her!!. Remember women are built genetically to cheat and its true. Specially Human females as they can hide the secrecy of ovulation better than anyone without any symptoms!!. I searched and found few.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1211104/Think-men-unfaithful-sex-A-study-shows-WOMEN-biggest-cheats--theyre-just-better-lying-it.html
http://digg.com/news/story/Study_finds_women_actually_cheat_more_than_men
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/OnCall/story?id=1469078
http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2011-08-30/man-woman/29941703_1_pc-men-brit
and many more...
>There are 100 woman for every 98 men, that doesn't sound as a significant difference:
I said about males and females and it applies to all animals in animal kingdoms (one lion and many lioness....). Most of the kings had many wives but how many queens had many kings legally ? ( Apart from Draupadi Though
)
> But that's not the correct survey
Of course you're going to show links that show your point, while I'm going to show links that show mine:
http://www.selfgrowth.com/articles/do_men_cheat_more_women.html
http://www.foxnews.com/imag/Love/Cheating+Statistics%3A+Do+Men+Cheat+More+Than+Women%3F
http://www.truthaboutdeception.com/cheating-and-infidelity/stats-about-infidelity.html
http://www.authorsden.com/categories/article_top.asp?catid=57&id=28879
and many more...
So don't think that your opinion is fact, it's just an opinion.
>Most of the kings had many wives but how many queens had many kings legally ?
Legally? And who makes laws? Men, which shows my point.
>Of course you're going to show links that show your point, while I'm going to show links that show mine:
I am talking from my experience. So i didnot show you links until u did. But there as a program in National Geographic confirming my claim.
>Legally? And who makes laws? Men, which shows my point.
Laws are made by them who have the power and discipline whether they are women or men.
Men have it and they make it. It will not change until there is a biological change in man. And that's my point. Women are weaker physically but strong mentally and the opposite for men. Thats how nature maintains symmetry.
Most of the time Its the women who rule the males who have power
( Like Cleopatra). Hence you are just looking at one side of coin and I am looking at a balance in imbalances.
Really I'd be happy with one girl that I really liked. I'm a bit of a hopeless romantic though.
> Really I'd be happy with one girl that I really liked. I'm a bit of a hopeless romantic though.
I think we was born in the wrong era if we had been born 1950's (or before) we would have been in good shape.
Maybe so, but the rest of the 1950s I could certainly do without :-P
Yeah I would pass on the rest of it as well.
Are you kidding? The 1950s were a Golden Age. This old book http://www.amazon.com/When-going-was-good-American/dp/0870005286/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1330693815&sr=1-2 makes the case brilliantly.
> Really I'd be happy with one girl that I really liked.
That wouldn't be enough for me. I also demand that the girl really liked me. And some people argue that this may be even more important, what with them claiming that they're happy because they found someone that really loved them, and their love came out naturally with time.[citation needed]
Yes very important, sort of implied, I tend to like a girl less if she doesn't like me, or conversely, I tend to like her a LOT more if she likes me :-P
Good for you. Some guys actually like girls that don't like them, and enjoy the challenge of "chasing" them down to woo them. This view has been so generalized that I've read books that recommend girls to fake that they don't like the guy they like, so he remains interested and whatnot.
I just hope my girl doesn't go that way, one of the descriptions of my dream girl is that she is direct and to the point, not this pretending stuff or whatever.
I just hope my girl doesn't go that way, one of the descriptions of my dream girl is that she is direct and to the point, not this pretending stuff or whatever.
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