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Pues si eso es verdad entonces deja que la moderación tome sus decisiones, las amenazas estan de más. Es como apuntale con una pistola al juez si no pone el caso a tu favor.
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A los Jueces, los fiscales les ponen las pruebas sobre el escritorio y solicitan condenas, no les apuntan con pistolas amenazándoles para que juzguen y condenen.
En este caso, todos los miembros somos fiscales, alguno no, es más bien abogado defensor del delincuente.
La moderación no necesita que yo le deje o no le deje actuar. Soy sólo un pequeño eslabón.
En este caso, todos los miembros somos fiscales, alguno no, es más bien abogado defensor del delincuente.
La moderación no necesita que yo le deje o no le deje actuar. Soy sólo un pequeño eslabón.
you understand spanish,or are you using a good translator? 
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I'll translate for Ruben if that's ok with him, and since I have a terrible cold and have nothing better to do
I am a member of the forum.
I am a participant in the forum.
This dude (Jimmy) not only ripped Paul off but also the rest of us.
I don't appreciate sharing any kind of activity with this kind of person.
Basically, if they don't ban him, I'll leave the forum, and consequently the tournament as well.
It's not something that effects exclusively only Paul.
And besides, I think Paul could think about this a little more deeply, and perhaps come to the conclusion that this dude can't repeat the same thing with us.
On the other hand, I think that your opinion (refering to Uly) is, like always, twisted and basically based on the fact that you like to contradict everyone for fun (I think he is accusing Uly of being a troll).
I am a member of the forum.
I am a participant in the forum.
This dude (Jimmy) not only ripped Paul off but also the rest of us.
I don't appreciate sharing any kind of activity with this kind of person.
Basically, if they don't ban him, I'll leave the forum, and consequently the tournament as well.
It's not something that effects exclusively only Paul.
And besides, I think Paul could think about this a little more deeply, and perhaps come to the conclusion that this dude can't repeat the same thing with us.
On the other hand, I think that your opinion (refering to Uly) is, like always, twisted and basically based on the fact that you like to contradict everyone for fun (I think he is accusing Uly of being a troll).
Thank you very much.
You guys won't have to worry about this for long. Because I would say in the next 12 to 24 hours I'm going to be ban. As by my request to Dadi.
You guys don't even have to worry about me coming back, my english sucks so bad you would probably tell if it was me or not.
You guys don't even have to worry about me coming back, my english sucks so bad you would probably tell if it was me or not.
Well, if Barnard and Rúben can decide who is banned on the forum I wonder why do we have moderation and Dadi around?
I wonder who they'll decide to ban next?
I wonder who they'll decide to ban next?
No.
I can decide if I continue or not in it place.
It is diferent.
You have bad intentions. Confuse the people with yours translations, mixing personals opinions.
I can decide if I continue or not in it place.
It is diferent.
You have bad intentions. Confuse the people with yours translations, mixing personals opinions.
So who decided to ban TheHug, and caused it? It was Barnard and you, nobody else. You took justice in your own hands.
La decisión sólo la pueden tomar la moderación y el propio acusado.
Se acaba de dar uno de los casos. ;-)
Se acaba de dar uno de los casos. ;-)
>So who decided to ban TheHug, and caused it?
who caused it was Jimmy himself when he made the fraud!!!
stop trying to make us guilty,when the only guilty is the guy who made the fraud!!!
Uly,
instead of continually attacking Barnard and Ruben, why don't you ask your friend The Hug to return the money that was given to him in good faith. I am sure Barnard and Ruben will cool down with time, but at the moment, they are outraged and they have every right to be a little upset.
I personally don't care if someone is banned or not, they can always come back under another name, but I can certainly understand why Barnard and Ruben are upset.
I know you are a nice guy Uly, but you really shouldn't be standing by dishonest people.
instead of continually attacking Barnard and Ruben, why don't you ask your friend The Hug to return the money that was given to him in good faith. I am sure Barnard and Ruben will cool down with time, but at the moment, they are outraged and they have every right to be a little upset.
I personally don't care if someone is banned or not, they can always come back under another name, but I can certainly understand why Barnard and Ruben are upset.
I know you are a nice guy Uly, but you really shouldn't be standing by dishonest people.
> why don't you ask your friend The Hug to return the money that was given to him in good faith.
Check the thread, Jimmy has agreed to repay the money around July (Paul states this in the first post).
> I personally don't care if someone is banned or not, they can always come back under another name
Due to TheHug's writing style, I think he would be recognized on the spot if he came back. This means he'll be gone for good, and I think it should have been decided by moderation and not by two normal members, as I said, if these two people can decide who gets banned then they become owners of the forum, so be careful to not say something they dislike as they can use the same tactics to get you banned.
El hecho que alguien se comprometa a devolver el dinero mal habido, no lo exime de culpabilidad.
Es lo menos que podría hacer.
De todas formas, en mi opinión personal, no confío en que el lobo se comprometa a no comerse un cordero...
Es lo menos que podría hacer.
De todas formas, en mi opinión personal, no confío en que el lobo se comprometa a no comerse un cordero...
>if these two people can decide who gets banned then they become owners of the forum, so be careful to not say something they dislike as they can use the same tactics to get you >banned.
please,stop telling stupid things Uly,we NEVER agree,NEVER,about any that we speak,and when turbo atacked you,i was the first who defended you!or you forgot it?and i was the first who reported turbo for insulting you,even if we never agree about we talk,or is that false?
you,all the day are telling things that i dislike,but when someone atacked you,i defended you!is false that i did it when turbo atacked you?answer me,and be honest!
so stop trying to make us guilty,because we arent!
> Check the thread, Jimmy has agreed to repay the money around July (Paul states this in the first post).
In July??
Then you can start defending him in July or whenever he ACTUALLY pays the money. Your friend's track record of keeping his word so far has been less than stellar. In order to show solidarity with Ruben and Barnard and to say that it's not okay to defraud people, I will join their request as well. I hope Dadi or Lukas or someone high up, make a little statement, saying that what "the hug" did was not acceptable and as a consequence he has been removed.
Well as I said to the 2 of them. You won't have anything to worry about, my english sticks out like a sore thumb. There is no way in hell I could come back.
Hi Jimmy,
I am not worried at all. From your posts I got the distinct impression that you were already gone, did you lie again?
Whether you come back or not, whether you are moderator or not, that's stuff that you and Uly care about. I just wanted to show my support for people who feel defrauded and their TRUST BETRAYED.
> You won't have anything to worry about
I am not worried at all. From your posts I got the distinct impression that you were already gone, did you lie again?
Whether you come back or not, whether you are moderator or not, that's stuff that you and Uly care about. I just wanted to show my support for people who feel defrauded and their TRUST BETRAYED.
> I hope Dadi or Lukas or someone high up, make a little statement, saying that what "the hug" did was not acceptable and as a consequence he has been removed.
They're probably going to say that he was banned because he requested to be banned. And he requested to be banned because of Barnard and Rúben's threats.
TheHug gave the biggest gift to the forum when creating the WBCCC, I even was thinking about leaving the forum at the time but stuck because of the tourney. At some point the forum felt like a ghost town because of all the censorship that was around, and the WBCCC saved it.
It seems this means nothing to them and they only focus on the negative. If the main victim on the issue could forgive TheHug, why couldn't they?
> TheHug gave the biggest gift to the forum when creating the WBCCC,
What does this have to do with our topic of conversation?
Again, I think you should encourage your friend to do the right thing and return all the money tomorrow. You do realize Uly that people actually go to jail for fraud.
I am gonna go to sleep now. Have a great night you all.
Date 2012-03-05 03:38
im also going to sleep,good night to everyone
> Well, if Barnard and Rúben can decide who is banned on the forum
Uly, you know this is not true. When did they get banning power? They are just expressing their opinion. They say "ban the guy", you say "don't ban the guy".
Why write stuff that is simply not true. You are acting hysterical.
> They say "ban the guy", you say "don't ban the guy".
Clear difference: I never said "If TheHug is banned then I'd quit the forum forever". Now, tell me that's not a threat.
it is NOT a threat
i can perfectly leave the forum if a person who has commited a fraud isnt banned,as simply as that
im not speaking about a guy who has different ideas from me,im speaking about a guy who has made a fraud to Paul and to all the other members of the forum,and that is enough to ban him
i can perfectly leave the forum if a person who has commited a fraud isnt banned,as simply as that
im not speaking about a guy who has different ideas from me,im speaking about a guy who has made a fraud to Paul and to all the other members of the forum,and that is enough to ban him
> that is enough to ban him
That was your opinion, and Rúben's opinion. You acted as if it was a fact, and took courses of action to ensure that things went your way.
false again...
he made a crime against members of this forum,so is a fact that he deserves the ban;people with much less severe things were banned from this forum Uly,and dont ask me names,you know perfctly but i not
and about 'my way',that is totally,again,false:if he never made that fraud,if he never lied us,and if he never did what he did,that (people asking for Jimmy's ban) never occured
he made a crime against members of this forum,so is a fact that he deserves the ban;people with much less severe things were banned from this forum Uly,and dont ask me names,you know perfctly but i not
and about 'my way',that is totally,again,false:if he never made that fraud,if he never lied us,and if he never did what he did,that (people asking for Jimmy's ban) never occured
Yes, they threatened to leave the forum. They are entitled to do that.
You are acting like they are the bad guys where they did not steal a single penny. You are entitled to do that as well. Free forum.
You are acting like they are the bad guys where they did not steal a single penny. You are entitled to do that as well. Free forum.
We will see...
I'll ask Dadi personally and if not than I bet you would believe Garvin or Uly as they would get the message.
lets see if its true,or just a maneuver to calm down to the people and just another lie
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Thank you, Jimmy Huggins (TheHug).
Please, don't forget several things:
1) Being banned for ever does not write off your debts with Rybka Forum, your still have to repay the money back. You also lost your credibility about the sponsors let you down. Those sponsors never existed. I prefer to think that rather than you made a big business with all of us and you also have to repay them their money back.
2) It should be appreciated that your last words here were 'sorry' to the people that you have offended with your dishonest cheating and 'thanks' to the people who helped you, even giving money to you in several times.
3) All the threads you have removed should be restored from backs up.
I really would like you have learned the lesson.
Good luck
Please, don't forget several things:
1) Being banned for ever does not write off your debts with Rybka Forum, your still have to repay the money back. You also lost your credibility about the sponsors let you down. Those sponsors never existed. I prefer to think that rather than you made a big business with all of us and you also have to repay them their money back.
2) It should be appreciated that your last words here were 'sorry' to the people that you have offended with your dishonest cheating and 'thanks' to the people who helped you, even giving money to you in several times.
3) All the threads you have removed should be restored from backs up.
I really would like you have learned the lesson.
Good luck
For non-Spanish speakers: Rúben Comes and Barnard have threatened to leave the forum if their demand of banning Jimmy isn't put in place.
No es una amenaza.
Es una promesa.
Tengo Honor, y se cumplir.
Es una promesa.
Tengo Honor, y se cumplir.
Jimmy ya ha pedido su baneo. Esto es un mal precedente pues ahora cualquiera puede poner esas promesas y causar que quién sea sea baneado. Los miembros se han vuelto juez y parte.
falso!si yo pido que te baneen a ti,sin ningun motivo,nadie apoyara mi propuesta...o si pido que baneen a Lukas,nadie apoyara mi propuesta,porque no tengo ningun motivo para pedir el baneo de ti o de Lukas
esto no crea ningun precedente SALVO QUE LA HIPOTETICA PROXIMA PERSONA QUE SE PIDA SU BANEO TENGA TAMBIEN PENSADO DEFRAUDAR DINERO O METERSE EN ACTIVIDADES DELICTIVAS
asi que esto no crea ningun precedente,porque aunque pida yo tu baneo (es solo un ejemplo,o el de Lukas),si no hay una razon de peso,no lo van a dar
esto no crea ningun precedente SALVO QUE LA HIPOTETICA PROXIMA PERSONA QUE SE PIDA SU BANEO TENGA TAMBIEN PENSADO DEFRAUDAR DINERO O METERSE EN ACTIVIDADES DELICTIVAS
asi que esto no crea ningun precedente,porque aunque pida yo tu baneo (es solo un ejemplo,o el de Lukas),si no hay una razon de peso,no lo van a dar
Mal precedente???
Es genial!!!
Que nosotros mismos podamos lograr ejectar a un delincuente del foro!!
Quizás tu lo extrañes, pero podrás intercambiar ideas y conceptos con él vía email!
Presión, eso es sólo lo que he intentado meterle a este tipo para que él mismo renuncie al Foro.
Muy bueno!
Además, esto sirve para ver quién es quién aquí... y ya veo que clase de tío eres tu...
Es genial!!!
Que nosotros mismos podamos lograr ejectar a un delincuente del foro!!
Quizás tu lo extrañes, pero podrás intercambiar ideas y conceptos con él vía email!
Presión, eso es sólo lo que he intentado meterle a este tipo para que él mismo renuncie al Foro.
Muy bueno!
Además, esto sirve para ver quién es quién aquí... y ya veo que clase de tío eres tu...
ahora te das cuenta de que clase de tio es?
Uly,
you are making it sound as though Barnard and Ruben are asking for some innocent guy to be banned for no reason whatsoever. Why are you doing that? You know there was fraud involved.
The forum members are free to express their opinion, whatever it may be, right? Dadi has the ultimate decision. If there is a bad guy here, it certainly is not Barnard or Ruben.
you are making it sound as though Barnard and Ruben are asking for some innocent guy to be banned for no reason whatsoever. Why are you doing that? You know there was fraud involved.
The forum members are free to express their opinion, whatever it may be, right? Dadi has the ultimate decision. If there is a bad guy here, it certainly is not Barnard or Ruben.
Ruben,aqui gente con honor y con cojones,por lo que se ve,quedamos muy pocos...
False. Bad translation.
It is only an opinion from Uly.
It is only an opinion from Uly.
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I will miss you friend jimmy. Learn from this mistakes to be a better person.
TOTALLY FALSE
I NEVER TREATENED TO ANYONE
I JUST TOLD THAT IF HE IS NOT BANNED,I WILL LEAVE THE FORUM,SINCE I WOULDNT SHARE MY TIME WITH A PERSON ACUSSED WITH THAT SEVERE OFFENSE
you 'forgot' at your message to tell to everyone why are we claiming that he must be banned,because he made fraud,ok?
I NEVER TREATENED TO ANYONE
I JUST TOLD THAT IF HE IS NOT BANNED,I WILL LEAVE THE FORUM,SINCE I WOULDNT SHARE MY TIME WITH A PERSON ACUSSED WITH THAT SEVERE OFFENSE
you 'forgot' at your message to tell to everyone why are we claiming that he must be banned,because he made fraud,ok?
Barnard, if I say I leave the forum if you're not banned, is it a threat or not?
For all I know, you guys could want to get me banned for whatever reason, and threaten the forum to leave if I'm not banned, with the same effect.
For all I know, you guys could want to get me banned for whatever reason, and threaten the forum to leave if I'm not banned, with the same effect.
Si tú dices que abandonas el foro, ya mismo voy por un Pomery!!!!
in that hypothetical case,if i made specially wrong things,like a fraud,or cheating people,or uploading private data/pics,not it isnt a threat,is just that you hate disgusting people like me
what?im NOT who want you to be banned,you can have it for sure Uly,so all your assertion is totally false
>For all I know, you guys could want to get me banned for whatever reason
what?im NOT who want you to be banned,you can have it for sure Uly,so all your assertion is totally false
Pareciera que Uly intenta desviar el enojo hacia él, para alivianarle la cuestión un poco a su protegido.
Como verás Uly, no te será sencillo.
A lo mejor no sea una buena idea que continues esta guerra verbal, que no resiste el más mínimo análisis.
Sólo te está salpicando a ti la mierda ajena.
Llámate al silencio, le harás un favor a tu buen nombre y honor...
Como verás Uly, no te será sencillo.
A lo mejor no sea una buena idea que continues esta guerra verbal, que no resiste el más mínimo análisis.
Sólo te está salpicando a ti la mierda ajena.
Llámate al silencio, le harás un favor a tu buen nombre y honor...
The only ones who get to decide who actually gets banned from the whole forum are the Rybka Forum moderators.
The final decision about what to do with participation in WBCCC is mine.
Everyone else can offer their opinions and feedback, they can even threaten if they like, but at the end of the day, it is up to the people listed above to decide what to do.
It looks like the following is going to occur:
1) Jimmy Huggins will not be playing any more in this tournament
2) Jimmy Huggins will not be a moderator of Rybka Forum.
I will make a more detailed, longer post on this matter in a few hours (night time my time) but thought I would say something to try and get the endless vitriol to stop.
I have been watching and reading the posts, but thought I would not comment till I had a chance to speak a bit more with fellow Rybka Forum moderators.
Garvin Gray
WBCCC Arbiter
The final decision about what to do with participation in WBCCC is mine.
Everyone else can offer their opinions and feedback, they can even threaten if they like, but at the end of the day, it is up to the people listed above to decide what to do.
It looks like the following is going to occur:
1) Jimmy Huggins will not be playing any more in this tournament
2) Jimmy Huggins will not be a moderator of Rybka Forum.
I will make a more detailed, longer post on this matter in a few hours (night time my time) but thought I would say something to try and get the endless vitriol to stop.
I have been watching and reading the posts, but thought I would not comment till I had a chance to speak a bit more with fellow Rybka Forum moderators.
Garvin Gray
WBCCC Arbiter
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