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- - By Garvin Gray (****) Date 2012-02-02 11:45 Edited 2012-02-02 16:14
Feel free to chat away here regarding the games below if you wish :)

Here are the official pairings for games 1 and 2:

1  PPIPPER,          (1)  2509 [0]     :     BARNARD,          (11) 2150 [0]
2  INDRAJIT_SG,      (12) 2136 [0]     :     NATIONAL12,       (2)  2380 [0]
3  SEBASTIAN_BOEHME, (3)  2358 [0]     :     NATMAKU,          (13) 2127 [0]
4  SCHACHMATT,       (14) 2125 [0]     :     RUBEN_COMES,      (4)  2347 [0]
5  DAVID_EVANS,      (5)  2281 [0]     :     SCOTT_NICHOLS,    (15) 2084 [0]
6  ARMAGEDDONX,      (16) 2082 [0]     :     ULY,              (6)  2279 [0]
7  GARVIN_GRAY,      (7)  2201 [0]     :     THEHUG,           (17) 2013 [0]
8  DEKA,             (18) 2006 [0]     :     MARK_ELDRIDGE,    (8)  2176 [0]
9  KEOKI010,         (9)  2169 [0]     :     PRODIGYX,         (19)      [0]
10 DAZZLEKNIGHT2010, (20)      [0]     :     OMPRAKASH,        (10) 2162 [0]

1  NATMAKU,          (13) 2127 [0]     :     PPIPPER,          (1)  2509 [0]
2  NATIONAL12,       (2)  2380 [0]     :     SCHACHMATT,       (14) 2125 [0]
3  BARNARD,          (11) 2150 [0]     :     SEBASTIAN_BOEHME, (3)  2358 [0]
4  RUBEN_COMES,      (4)  2347 [0]     :     INDRAJIT_SG,      (12) 2136 [0]
5  THEHUG,           (17) 2013 [0]     :     DAVID_EVANS,      (5)  2281 [0]
6  ULY,              (6)  2279 [0]     :     DEKA,             (18) 2006 [0]
7  PRODIGYX,         (19)      [0]     :     GARVIN_GRAY,      (7)  2201 [0]
8  MARK_ELDRIDGE,    (8)  2176 [0]     :     DAZZLEKNIGHT2010, (20)      [0]
9  SCOTT_NICHOLS,    (15) 2084 [0]     :     KEOKI010,         (9)  2169 [0]
10 OMPRAKASH,        (10) 2162 [0]     :     ARMAGEDDONX,      (16) 2082 [0]

Following discussions with Dadi, games will start Saturday February 4 10am GMT. This is 9 hours later than previously advertised, but considering it is the first two games, better to start when Dadi is available in case there are any issues.

I hope everyone enjoys their games. Let the tournament begin.

Garvin Gray
WBCCC 2012 Arbiter
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2012-02-02 11:50
Aw, I had hoped to get a pairing against you since it may be the only chance to play you in case we get more players to join and go even, or something, but I like very much my pairings (a new opponent and my Muzio Gambit matches with deka are legendary).

Good luck everyone!
Parent - By deka (****) [ee] Date 2012-02-02 17:27
Thank you! I home our next game will be more interesting than the last one.
Parent - By Barnard (Bronze) Date 2012-02-02 17:38
Good luck to everyone at the tournament!
Parent - By Mark Eldridge (****) [gb] Date 2012-02-02 19:14
Thank you. Good Chess to everyone.
- By keoki010 (Bronze) [us] Date 2012-02-02 15:35
Good luck to everyone!!

I see me and Scott are paired; should be a great game going by past matchs. :eek::lol:
- - By ppipper (*****) [es] Date 2012-02-02 17:21
Good luck to everyone, let's see how it goes this edition!
Parent - - By Barnard (Bronze) Date 2012-02-02 17:38
bueno,al fin podemos jugar esa partida que te ofeci hace tiempo Jose :smile:
suerte en el torneo
Parent - - By ppipper (*****) [es] Date 2012-02-02 18:55
sin duda alguna, qué mejor escenario que este....

suerte
Parent - - By Barnard (Bronze) Date 2012-02-02 19:04
Una pregunta José,cuando hagamos nuestras jugadas con el cliente que nos ha dado Dadi,este postea las jugadas y el tiempo usado en el correspondiente thread de nuestra partida,o debemos hacerlo nosotros?
Parent - - By ppipper (*****) [es] Date 2012-02-02 20:52
Todo es automático. No tienes que hacer nada. Simplemente haces el movimiento en el cliente, y al cabo de un tiempo aparece publicado en el thread correspondiente, con toda la información disponible.

El único aspecto a tener en cuenta es cuánto tiempo transcurre desde que envías el movimiento en el cliente hasta que aparece aquí. No sé cómo serán las reglas este año, pero el año pasado podía transcurrir hasta un máximo de 60 minutos, si el rival no había visto el movimiento.
Parent - - By Barnard (Bronze) Date 2012-02-02 21:10
aunque transcurra el maximo de 60 minutos si el rival no ha visto el movimiento,y aqui no lo posteen el movimiento hasta (por ejemplo) 60 minutos despues de haberlo hecho,si yo por ejemplo tardo 15 minutos en mover,aunque aqui no se postee hasta 1 hora despues,a mi en mi tiempo solo me cuenta que tarde 15 minutos en mover,cierto?

y otra cosa,hay alguna forma de que cuando el rival mueva en el cliente,el cliente te mande un email para avisarte que ha jugado tu rival?porque es un engorro estar mirando cada hora si han jugado...o a la hora cuando se postea en el thread correspondiente la jugada de tu rival,se postea como si hubieran respondido a un post tuyo,y en ese caso el foro de rybka te envia un email como que te han respondido a un post y asi puedes saber que tu rival ha movido?

p.s. empezamos nuestra partida de test,y asi salgo de duadas en todo esto Jose?
Parent - By ppipper (*****) [es] Date 2012-02-03 00:59
sí, cómo no, eso será lo mejor.

Test comenzado, 1.b3
Parent - - By ppipper (*****) [es] Date 2012-02-03 01:01

> ,y en ese caso el foro de rybka te envia un email como que te han respondido a un post y asi puedes saber que tu rival ha movido?


correcto.

Aunque no sé si hay algo más eficiente. Me suena que Rubén tenía algo para ser avisado.
Parent - - By Barnard (Bronze) Date 2012-02-03 01:10
quieres decir que aunque el foro de rybka te avise de que tienes de tu contrincario a tu post con tu jugada enviandote un email,ruben comes tenia algo para ser avisado de una forma mas eficiente?
Parent - By ppipper (*****) [es] Date 2012-02-03 01:47
Yes
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2012-02-03 06:55
Barnard, te tengo 3 sugerencias:

La primera es que te subscribas al Thread del juego contra tus oponentes, esto hará que se te envíe un email cada que un nuevo post aparesca, lo que incluye los posts con las jugadas.

La otra es que pongas al ciente en refrescar los juegos cada minuto, así no tienes que estar checando el foro a ver si alguién jugó, pues basta con que cheques el ciente.

Y la última es que te bajes al ChessPlanet Client, que me parece que te abre una ventanita cada que un oponente hace un movimiento, así que lo puedes dejar abierto y cuanda ya te toque mover te sale la ventanita aunque estés haciendo otra cosa (aunque no estoy seguro de esto).
Parent - - By Barnard (Bronze) Date 2012-02-03 17:56
me he suscrito al thread,he hecho mi movimiento,en el thread ya ha aparecido el post con mi movimiento,pero no me envian ningun email diciendo que 'barnard ha escrtio xxxx'...
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2012-02-04 01:39
Que raro, ¿ya le enviaste un mensaje privado a Dadi preguntandole que cómo le haces para recibir emails con las jugadas?, sé que otros jugadores lo lograron.
Parent - - By Barnard (Bronze) Date 2012-02-05 03:11
si,ya lo he hecho...y Dadi me ha respondido que suscribiendote al thread no sirve de nada,porque no me va a enviar cuando me respondan ningun mensaje,que me lo envia directamente el chessplanet...el problema es que como puñetero correo basura viene de rumania,yo tenia bloqueado todos los remitentes que acabaran en '.ru',y claro,aunque el chessplanet me enviaba los email,no me llegaban,y ni siquera me los ponia en el correo basura,directamente ni me llegaban...pero al saber que el chessplanet terminaba en .ru,desbloquee ese emisor,y ahora si que me llegan los emails de chessplanet
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2012-02-05 08:28
Creo que los de .ru vienen de Rusia, pero me alegro que ya estés recibiendo los emails.
Parent - By Barnard (Bronze) Date 2012-02-06 09:10
gracias por la apreciacion Uly...ahora ya esta corregido y me llegan los emails :wink:
- - By TheHug (Bronze) [us] Date 2012-02-02 17:42
All game threads posted good luck to everyone.
Parent - - By Rubén Cómes (****) [ar] Date 2012-02-02 23:54
Thanks!
Parent - - By Barnard (Bronze) Date 2012-02-03 01:20
hola Ruben

tu tenias algo para ser avusad para que cuando un jugador hiciese su movimiento contra ti,por ejemplo,el cliente ue nos dio Dadi te avisase que tu contrincante habia hecho un movimiento,y asi no tener que checkear el cliente hora por hora,porque esto se puede volver muy muy pesado?
Parent - - By Rubén Cómes (****) [ar] Date 2012-02-03 01:23
Hola.
A mi me envia un email cada vez que hay un movimiento.
Preguntale a Dadi, él te podrá informar bien cómo funciona.
Parent - - By Barnard (Bronze) Date 2012-02-03 01:43
gracias,voy a preguntarle
Parent - - By ppipper (*****) [es] Date 2012-02-03 01:49
Please post it here in case is something different than normal email warnings.  Thanks
Parent - By Barnard (Bronze) Date 2012-02-03 02:12
no te entendi Jose,que quisiste decir?
- By Garvin Gray (****) Date 2012-02-03 01:48
Sorry, what
- - By Indrajit (***) [in] Date 2012-02-03 04:54
Any Indians out here, I want to start speaking in Hindi for a change!
Parent - - By TheHug (Bronze) [us] Date 2012-02-03 04:55
Were is Om when you need him. :lol:
Parent - By Master Om (*****) [in] Date 2012-02-06 01:33
Villians come at last.
Parent - - By ppipper (*****) [es] Date 2012-02-03 10:54
ups sorry, you are right, public conversations should be kept in english. Didn't want to offend anyone.
Parent - By Garvin Gray (****) Date 2012-02-03 11:34
need to be able to understand what is being said before being able to offend :razz:
Parent - - By Master Om (*****) [in] Date 2012-02-06 01:33
Bolo Bhaiya, Kya baat he.
Parent - By Barnard (Bronze) Date 2012-02-06 09:15
you see?no problem is he writes in hindi.... :smile:
Parent - - By Barnard (Bronze) Date 2012-02-06 09:13
answer me one question,if one person doesnt know speak english AND havent acces to a computer (for example,is logged with his Nokia),so hi cant have acces to Google translator,and only speak(just an example),spanish,where is the problem that he ask DIRECTLY to other spanish guy a question,eh?

is the same if you cant acces to a translator,you only know hindi,and you see here an indian guy,where is the problem that you ask him a question in hindi?

so shut up
Parent - - By Vempele (Silver) [eu] Date 2012-02-06 09:19

> respóndeme una pregunta, si una persona no sabe hablar acceso Inglés Y havent a un ordenador (por ejemplo, se registra con su Nokia), por lo que hi no puedo tener acceso a traductor de Google, y sólo hablan (sólo un ejemplo), español, donde es el problema que preguntar directamente al chico español otra pregunta, ¿eh? es el mismo si le significativas acceso a un traductor, sólo sé hindi, y se puede ver aquí un chico indio, ¿dónde está el problema que le haga una pregunta en hindi? así que cállate


Translated into Spanish by Google and posted on my Nokia phone.
Parent - - By Barnard (Bronze) Date 2012-02-06 09:26
well,was just an example...i mean if someone cant acces to a translator,or more simply,want ask a question directly to another person in other language,to be answered by that other oerson AND NOT by the forum,why he cant use another language different from english?
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2012-02-06 10:01
Well, I see one point:

If the guy goes and uses a translator, to post in english, only he has to do the job. If he posts in spanish, all the people that want to read his message that don't speak spanish have to go and do the job. So posting the message directly in english is a courtesy for everyone wanting to read the message, specially when the guy can type in english without a translator.
Parent - - By Barnard (Bronze) Date 2012-02-06 10:09
so is forbbiden to have a conversation here,just an example,between you and me in spanish,if we speak a better spanish than english?
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2012-02-06 10:19 Edited 2012-02-06 10:24

> ,if we speak a better spanish than english


I think my English is as good as my Spanish, or better, since it's much easier to type. In Spanish, I never know if some word uses v or b, or c or s, if I'm messing up a y intead of a ll, or have missed a h, or where the accent goes, so it's frustrating knowing I might be spelling bad some word.

My spoken Spanish is much better, of course (actually, I don't speak English), but we're not speaking, we're texting, and in text, I think English is the way to go. I do care a lot about orthography and English is way easier in this regard than my natural language.
Parent - - By Vempele (Silver) [fi] Date 2012-02-06 10:23

> I do care a lot about orthography and English is way easier in this regard that my natural language.


Heh.
Parent - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2012-02-06 10:31
I think that was a grammatical mistake, in this regard English doesn't have that edge.

The fight is not about what words to use, but how to write them once they've been chosen, that's just a terrible block in the way of communication in Spanish, and I'm not the only one, my mother only participates in Spanish talking fora, and on a regular basis asks me with what letter a word should be written, or in the case of a word like "Reflexión", whether is that way or with a cc instead of x, Spanish just has messy, arbitrary, unnecessary rules.

The proof is in the pudding, every time I try to speak in spanish with Rubén Comes (another natural) he ends correcting me on how I type my words (which is different from corrections about which words are typed.)
Parent - - By Barnard (Bronze) Date 2012-02-06 10:29
Uly,that is yur problem,because seems that you dont read so much spanish literature...if you read,you dont make typos,be sure
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2012-02-06 10:38
My mother is a big reader, we have the house full of books, and she has read them all. Yet she still has similar problems being unsure of how a word must be typed. You may be sure of how to type the words, but you still commit mistakes, here are some recent ones:

apreciacion instead of apreciación 
ningun instead of ningún
tenia instead of tenía
ponia instead of ponía
razon instead of razón

You may be happy writing your Spanish with such mistakes, but I'm not and avoiding them is hard (you read a lot of Spanish literature and still make them...)
Parent - Date 2012-02-06 11:19
[topic branch moved]
Parent - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2012-02-06 11:59
(Offtopic Spanish discussions were moved to Drama Llama)
Parent - - By Vempele (Silver) [fi] Date 2012-02-06 10:21
If the conversation is of interest to other people, it would make sense to hold it in English. If it isn't, it would make sense to send PMs.

But if it's interesting to Spanish-speaking people in general and uninteresting to most everyone else, you could add a short note in English to that effect. Or if the translator does a poor job and it would take unreasonable effort to correct it.

Or a Spanish subforum could be added, like they have for the German language.
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