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Parent - - By Barnard (Bronze) Date 2012-01-25 22:19
16...Qb6
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2012-01-26 00:44
will move to left.
Parent - By Barnard (Bronze) Date 2012-01-26 00:52
ok Paul
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2012-01-23 21:32
i am out of book with 15.d5 wonder if nelson has much.:smile:
Parent - By Barnard (Bronze) Date 2012-01-23 22:09
im also out of book :smile: i was considering that move for you,seems interesting...maybe be Nelson can give us statistics about that move
Parent - - By Nelson Hernandez (Silver) [us] Date 2012-01-23 22:19
I am in the midst of a major database restructuring right now; it'll be days before I have a current book.  I'll keep this game in mind, though.
Parent - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2012-01-23 22:32
thanks.
Parent - - By Nelson Hernandez (Silver) [us] Date 2012-02-02 00:50
15.d5 was a novelty move.
Parent - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2012-02-02 00:53
thanks Nelson,only good enough for draw though.
- - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2012-01-26 00:46
1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 d5 4.g3 Bb4+ 5.Bd2 Be7 6.Bg2 0-0 7.0-0 c6 8.Qc2 Nbd7 9.Bf4 b6 10.Rd1
Ba6 11.Ne5 Rc8 12.Nc3 Bxc4 13.Nxc4 dxc4 14.e4 b5 15.d5 cxd5 16.exd5 Qb6 17.dxe6

2r2rk1/p2nbppp/1q2Pn2/1p6/2p2B2/2N3P1/PPQ2PBP/R2R2K1 b - - 0 17
Parent - - By Barnard (Bronze) Date 2012-01-26 00:52
17...fxe6
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2012-01-26 01:01
18.a4
Parent - - By Barnard (Bronze) Date 2012-01-26 01:40
18...b4
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2012-01-26 01:43
i wondered which move you would play,a6 looked a bit passive.
Parent - - By Barnard (Bronze) Date 2012-01-26 01:48
agree...maybe 'b4' is a bit risky,but i dont like passive lines,that is why i decided for the move 'b4'
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2012-01-26 02:00
i can get my pawn back and then because of heavyweight pieces i think game will fizzle out to a draw.
Parent - By Barnard (Bronze) Date 2012-01-26 02:07
yes,now come a semi-forced line where you can get your pawn back,and surely the game goes into a drawish endgame...but from my analisis,the endgame will derive me having 3 pawns at the queen side against 2 from you,and you having 3 pawns at your king side against 2 of me,BUT,bishops of the same colour...maybe that will make the endgame interesting,even if it finish in a draw
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2012-01-26 02:01
19.Nb5
Parent - - By Barnard (Bronze) Date 2012-01-26 02:08
19...Nd5

  conditional:if 20.Bxd5,exd5
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2012-01-26 02:20
1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 d5 4.g3 Bb4+ 5.Bd2 Be7 6.Bg2 0-0 7.0-0 c6 8.Qc2 Nbd7 9.Bf4 b6 10.Rd1
Ba6 11.Ne5 Rc8 12.Nc3 Bxc4 13.Nxc4 dxc4 14.e4 b5 15.d5 cxd5 16.exd5 Qb6 17.dxe6 fxe6 18.a4
b4 19.Nb5 Nd5 20.Bxd5

2r2rk1/p2nb1pp/1q2p3/1N1B4/Ppp2B2/6P1/1PQ2P1P/R2R2K1 b - - 0 20
Parent - - By Barnard (Bronze) Date 2012-01-26 02:21
20...exd5

but i gave you that move with my conditional
Parent - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2012-01-26 02:29
i posted before i read your conditional.
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2012-01-26 02:25
1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 d5 4.g3 Bb4+ 5.Bd2 Be7 6.Bg2 0-0 7.0-0 c6 8.Qc2 Nbd7 9.Bf4 b6 10.Rd1
Ba6 11.Ne5 Rc8 12.Nc3 Bxc4 13.Nxc4 dxc4 14.e4 b5 15.d5 cxd5 16.exd5 Qb6 17.dxe6 fxe6 18.a4
b4 19.Nb5 Nd5 20.Bxd5 exd5 21.Rxd5

2r2rk1/p2nb1pp/1q6/1N1R4/Ppp2B2/6P1/1PQ2P1P/R5K1 b - - 0 21
Parent - - By Barnard (Bronze) Date 2012-01-26 02:32
21...Nf6
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2012-01-26 02:35
22.Re5
Parent - - By Barnard (Bronze) Date 2012-01-26 02:43
mmmm...time to think Paul.now i have 2 options:the very risky,and i dont know if i can hold it,or force draws by continuous check (you must accept if you wouldnt go into a weaker position),so please,be patient with me
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2012-01-26 02:46
as i said before,take your time.
Parent - - By Wrath of the Titans (****) [ph] Date 2012-01-26 05:44
Since this is an exhibition match I would go for the risky choice.
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2012-01-26 06:59
I think exhibition matches should be taken as seriously as if rating points were at stake.
Parent - By Wrath of the Titans (****) [ph] Date 2012-01-26 07:13
Of course this is taken seriously as why we need to spend our time and resources if we will just clown around :cool:. In this mode of play you can be creative and test many of the unknown.
Parent - By Barnard (Bronze) Date 2012-01-26 23:13
agree
Parent - - By Barnard (Bronze) Date 2012-01-26 23:13
Hi

i usually always take the risky choice,but now,at our game,the risky choice gives me not advantage,and gives Paul lot of advantage,and i must play for draws all the game,without any chance of win...so play one risky choice,for none compensation,and give the initiative to your opponent and me playing for the draws all the game,and with the risk to lose the game,i think is a suicidal idea;if only that risky move gave me a few chances to win,be sure i will play it,but it doesnt give me any chance,0
Parent - - By Wrath of the Titans (****) [ph] Date 2012-01-27 02:31
I see so its not a risky choice but a suicidal choice! :evil:
Parent - By Barnard (Bronze) Date 2012-01-30 22:03
right
Parent - - By Barnard (Bronze) Date 2012-01-26 23:18
is sad,but i must play for draws Paul...the other mainly moves gives you advantage with none compensation to me,and in a long term plans,i must play for draws,but you having advantage,and in some lines,even one more pawn...so i must choose the (i think) semi-forced line that gaves me draws

22.Bc5
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2012-01-26 23:21
i thought this was only realistic move you could play.
Parent - By Barnard (Bronze) Date 2012-01-26 23:33
right...that is why i declined play all the other moves,doesnt give me any chances,and gives you advantage,and sounds stupid for me go inside a line where i know i will must play for draw without any option to win
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2012-01-26 23:36
23.Qxc4+ and if Kh8 24.Qe2
Parent - - By Barnard (Bronze) Date 2012-01-26 23:39
accepted conditional

24...a6
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2012-01-26 23:48
1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 d5 4.g3 Bb4+ 5.Bd2 Be7 6.Bg2 0-0 7.0-0 c6 8.Qc2 Nbd7 9.Bf4 b6 10.Rd1
Ba6 11.Ne5 Rc8 12.Nc3 Bxc4 13.Nxc4 dxc4 14.e4 b5 15.d5 cxd5 16.exd5 Qb6 17.dxe6 fxe6 18.a4
b4 19.Nb5 Nd5 20.Bxd5 exd5 21.Rxd5 Nf6 22.Re5 Bc5 23.Qxc4+ Kh8 24.Qe2 a6 25.Re6

Draw offer.

2r2r1k/6pp/pq2Rn2/1Nb5/Pp3B2/6P1/1P2QP1P/R5K1 b - - 0 25
Parent - - By Barnard (Bronze) Date 2012-01-26 23:53
accepted the draw offer

now is a forced line starting with Bxf2+,where i endly have the perpetual check that i told you a few moves ago

we played a quick game,and again,a draw... :cry: would you like that we play another game until WBCCC 2 starts?
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2012-01-27 00:02
i want a break now,we have had some good games and your great play has stopped me overestimating my chances in unusual openings.I have learnt a lot from your play and believe you will do well in WBCCC 2012.

Till we meet again good luck.
Parent - - By Barnard (Bronze) Date 2012-01-27 00:15
ok Paul,till we will meet at WBCCC 2,good luck my friend
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2012-01-27 00:30
i think maybe 10.Rd1 was not best move and maybe pawn exchange would have been better,i will never find out as i will never play this line again.Lookup says pawn exchange is very drawish and i tend to agree,however lookup is based on GM games and is a guide only,we are playing at a level above this.Just my take.:smile:
Parent - By Barnard (Bronze) Date 2012-01-30 22:13
agree...10,cxd5 seems interesting,even if opening book doesnt agree with it,and doesnt like that move...games based only on Gm games only,has the weakenes that,like you said,we are playing at a level above this,and that games (GM games),sometimes has opening wholes because they doesnt played it with engines the opening...yes,the pawn exchange seems drawish,but it require time to analisis,and that opening isnt the opening i usually play,so i wont waste that lot of time analizing it
Parent - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2012-01-27 00:03
[Event "corr"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2012.01.18"]
[Round "?"]
[White "NATIONAL12"]
[Black "Barnard"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "E11"]
[PlyCount "49"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nf3 d5 4. g3 Bb4+ 5. Bd2 Be7 6. Bg2 O-O 7. O-O c6 8. Qc2
Nbd7 9. Bf4 b6 10. Rd1 Ba6 11. Ne5 Rc8 12. Nc3 Bxc4 13. Nxc4 dxc4 14. e4 b5 15.
d5 cxd5 16. exd5 Qb6 17. dxe6 fxe6 18. a4 b4 19. Nb5 Nd5 20. Bxd5 exd5 21. Rxd5
Nf6 22. Re5 Bc5 23. Qxc4+ Kh8 24. Qe2 a6 25. Re6 1/2-1/2
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