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- - By Intagrand (*) Date 2007-12-17 00:58
A historic event recently was completed in Benidorm, Spain--the first-ever live Freestyle tournament.  You'll never guess who won. :)

Here's the main tournament site, Spanish fluency is required.
Parent - By turbojuice1122 (Gold) Date 2007-12-17 01:39
Thanks for the news, and congratulations on the nice win!  I'll definitely have to go over these games when I get the chance...
Parent - - By 8lrr8 (***) Date 2007-12-17 06:29
1.  what was the prize money for 1st?

2.  "and began banging out a long succession of computer moves so rapidly that Fenollar suddenly realized that he could not keep up the pace..."  

how much time did u have left on your clock?  how much time did your opponent have?  and how fast were u playing (around 1 move every 2 seconds or so?)

3.  "Fenollar apparently decided to abandon computer analysis and promptly made a very human blunder on the 96th move. Williams immediately halted his rapid playing rhythm, double-checked the position, and then slowly shook his head at his opponent with grim surmise."

was the position after your opponent's blunder accessed via EGTB, thus showing u the forced win?  or was it simply the chess engine eval skyrocketing?

4.  "To Williams’ surprise, after analysis that had already used up over an hour of the clock Molina concluded that there was no point in continuing the contest after the 10th move and congratulated his opponent for his novelty. "

what happened here?  why did your opponent resign after only 10 moves?
Parent - - By Nelson Hernandez (Gold) Date 2007-12-17 11:15
1.  2500 EU
2.  When the pace changed I think he was down to less than five minutes; his opponent had double that but was taking much longer to make his moves, so he was in greater time trouble.  Anson put out something like 30 moves in under two minutes.
3.  Eval skyrocketed.
4.  As you see in the article he spent a long time evaluating the position and apparently saw defeat in every direction.  Most people would have played on.  This opponent was the only one who recognized Anson as a Freestyle champion because he himself had played in the 7th tournament.  Maybe he was intimidated?  We'll never know.  Anson had a considerable language barrier over there as relatively few people spoke English.  Wish I had been there, I could have acted as a bouncer when the spectators were literally breathing down his neck.
Parent - - By 8lrr8 (***) Date 2007-12-17 13:27
nelson, a few more ?'s if u dont mind (since anson isnt a regular poster, i presume he might not reply personally himself):

1. in regards to the 10 move win, how bad is the position acc. to rybka eval?
2. the blunder made by Jorda, by "very human blunder," does that mean the blunder was a careless one or a subtle one (e.g. if u dont have proper endgame knowledge of that position, it's very easy to make that type of blunder)?
3. any thoughts as to why anson's final opp. offered a draw after just 3 moves?  would his standing be unaffected no matter had he won, lost, or drew against anson?
Parent - - By Nelson Hernandez (Gold) Date 2007-12-17 14:33
1.  It was about +0.35 I think.  You can test it yourself. 
2.  Wasn't careless, but the computer instantly went to about +1.50.  Any human could have made the move under time pressure.  Really the big mistake wasn't move 96 (which was fatal) but his deciding a couple of moves earlier to leave the blockaded position. 
3.  No clue why he offered draw.  Anson certainly didn't solicit one. 
Parent - - By 8lrr8 (***) Date 2007-12-18 01:24
1.  i dont have rybka or any other chess engine for that matter.  so i cant test it myself.  :-)
2.  if i recall, this also happened during the rybka vs. zappa mexico match.  seeing the 50-move draw rule in its search horizion, rybka decided to bust thru the totally blocked position, only to end up losing.  so that's 0-2 thus far for the side that decided to bust thru!
Parent - - By turbojuice1122 (Gold) Date 2007-12-18 01:41
Well, if you feel like it, you can always download the free Arena GUI to use for playing with UCI engines, and then download the free engines Fruit 2.3.1, Fruit 05/11/03, Toga II 1.3.4, Rybka 1.0 Beta, and Spike 1.2 Turin, all of which can beat any human in the world in a match on today's fastest overclocked processors.  There are at least three very different playing styles among these, so that makes them good for analysis.
Parent - By Uly (Gold) Date 2007-12-18 11:40
Don't forget Glaurung 2.0.1, I think it's stronger than Rybka BETA on 4CPU.
Parent - - By Nelson Hernandez (Gold) Date 2007-12-18 01:46
Fenollar did not try to bust through.  He merely changed a static status quo into one with possibilities.  There was no reason to do this when an honorable draw was assured, especially with the clock ticking down.  But his blunder move made no sense at all; all engines see right away that it was an error.
Parent - - By 8lrr8 (***) Date 2007-12-18 04:22
was anson at any time worried about spectators who might gather information regarding his opening book repertoire, or the engines he uses (and how he uses them)?  obviously in a live setting, freestyle tourneys will always have the risk of information leakage to the other side.  by comparison, such info leakage is impossible in an online setting (a la B&M vs. online poker).  unless of course everyone plays behind something like a voting booth.  now that would be bizarre to witness!  :-)
Parent - - By Nelson Hernandez (Gold) Date 2007-12-18 12:39
You bring up a very interesting topic which was only briefly alluded to in the story.  To some extent we anticipated that there would be spectators asking questions and trying to gain information, so we took some pre-tournament measures to frustrate intelligence-gathering which turned out to be very effective.  (What these were I will leave to your imagination.)  But nonetheless spectators friendly to Anson's opponents did observe his centauring technique and plans, placing their heads so close to Anson's to stare at his monitor that at times it seemed like an invasion of his personal space.  Some of these same people were observed whispering remarks to his opponents, obviously their friends.  All this was a bit disconcerting but we wrote it off as just another hazard of "Freestyle".

But more distressing was what happened in the third round against Fenollar, the top seed.  This fellow actually was getting up out of his chair repeatedly and doing exactly what I described above.  Anson felt this behavior was extraordinary and went to the arbiters during the match to find out of such conduct was allowed.  They affirmed that it was!

Subsequently other players complained to the arbiters about this conduct and I am not sure if they eventually reversed their ruling.

The lesson: if you go to these tournaments you definitely need to anticipate that anything that appears on your monitor is liable to be noted by everyone else.  A privacy screen would be just one counterintelligence measure a prospective competitor should utilize.
Parent - By Banned for Life (Gold) Date 2007-12-18 15:42
I think a better solution for keeping spectators at a distance would have been to cultivate an image for Anson as a crazed psychopath with homicidal tendencies. Of course the answer to the question "Have you ever been convicted for one of these heinous crimes?" would be the very reassuring: "Convicted? No, never convicted!".

Parent - - By Nick (*****) Date 2007-12-18 15:44

> This fellow actually was getting up out of his chair repeatedly and doing exactly what I described above.

I find that a fist works well in this situation.
Parent - By Nelson Hernandez (Gold) Date 2007-12-18 15:54
Spanish-language cursing skill would have been effective.  There are some really excellent mother oaths you could use that would cause spies to scurry away and might bring the tournament to a brief halt. 
Parent - - By josh Date 2007-12-19 02:57

I find that a fist works well in this situation.

Damned straight ! Even if disqualification and a trip to jail  hangs in the balance , respect will always out-weigh the consequenses. I don't care who you are.
Parent - By Nick (*****) Date 2007-12-20 20:42
A clear case of self defence, your honour.
Parent - - By Nelson Hernandez (Gold) Date 2007-12-21 03:16
To fight and conquer in all our battles is not supreme excellence; supreme excellence consists in breaking the enemy's resistance without fighting.  - Sun Tzu
Parent - By Banned for Life (Gold) Date 2007-12-21 03:41
"Sire, here is the unhappy General Mack".
Parent - - By Nick (*****) Date 2007-12-21 08:44 Edited 2007-12-21 08:50
Yeah but Sun Tzu was into martial arts and must have kicked a lot of butts.

Wikipedia summarises the chapters of The Art of War nicely, my emphasis:

The first chapter, "Planning," explores the five key elements that define competitive position (mission, climate, ground, leadership, and methods) and how to evaluate your competitive strengths against your competition.

"Going to War" explains the economic nature of competition and how success requires making winning pay, which in turn, requires limiting the cost of competition and conflict.

"Planning the Attack" defines the source of strength as unity, not size, and the five ingredients that you need to succeed in any competitive situation.

"Positioning" explains the importance of defending existing positions until you can advance them and how you must recognize opportunities, not try to create them.

"Force" explores the use of creativity and timing to build your competitive momentum.

"Weakness and Strength" explains how your opportunities come from the openings in the environment caused by the relative weakness of your competitors in a given area.

"Armed Conflict" explains the dangers of direct conflict and how to win those confrontations when they are forced upon you.

"Adapting to the Situation" focuses on the need for flexibility in your responses. It explains how to respond to shifting circumstances successfully.

"Armed March" describes the different situations in which you find yourselves as you move into new competitive arenas and how to respond to them. Much of it focuses on evaluating the intentions of others.

"Field Position" looks the three general areas of resistance (distance, dangers, and barriers) and the a six types of ground positions that arise from them. Each of these six field positions offers certain advantages and disadvantages.

"Nine Terrain" describes nine common situations (or stages) in a competitive campaign, from scattering to deadly, and the specific focus you need to successfully navigate each of them.

"Attacking with Fire" explains the use of weapons generally and the use of the environment as a weapon specifically. It examines the five targets for attack, the five types of environmental attack, and the appropriate responses to such attack.

"Using Spies" focuses on the importance of developing good information sources, specifically the five types of sources and how to manage them.

Pretty much the Cato approach to a game of chess? If it's true that people are only motivated to do anything by two forces 1) fear and 2) hope of pleasure, then you need to outweigh 2) with 1) occasionally.

PS. "Using spies" .. haha that is your never ending script that keeps popping into finished games on playchess :)
Parent - By BB (****) Date 2007-12-21 09:32
Wikipedia summarises the chapters of The Art of War nicely

Why be lazy? The whole treatise can be read in about an hour if I recall.
Parent - - By Nelson Hernandez (Gold) Date 2007-12-21 11:46
Not quite.  Anson is a follower of Sun Tzu.  I, on the other hand, am a follower of Generals Sherman and Patton.
Parent - - By BB (****) Date 2007-12-26 06:54
Stealth could be important in chess, supposedly. See The Value of Stealth in the Game of Chess by Smet, Gossink, and Calbert [limited access SpringerLink] for which the abstract says:

> We have modified the rules of chess to create a game of imperfect information. By introducing hidden pieces into the game, we have been able to gauge the effect of uncertainty on playing strength. The addition of a hidden white piece led to white winning between 63%-89% of its games. The advantage gained from an invisible piece is dependent on both the type of piece that is hidden, and the search depth at which games are played. Greater search depths increase the value of hidden pieces, although diminishing returns were noted at increased depths. The advantage of a hidden piece is typically greater than the effect of an equivalent extra piece. In this sense, information superiority gained via stealth is a more powerful advantage than additional material. The results indicate that uncertainty arising from hidden pieces profoundly influences outcomes in the game of chess.

Parent - By Nelson Hernandez (Gold) Date 2007-12-26 12:04
Interesting idea.  Are you making the connection that imposing uncertainty on an opponent (i.e. surprise) is a force-multiplier?
Parent - - By turbojuice1122 (Gold) Date 2007-12-18 17:00
It sounds like Anson definitely could have used a bouncer, Nelson.  After all, if there is nothing wrong with the opponent getting up and looking at your screen, there should be absolutely nothing wrong with you picking him up and throwing him off of the stage.  Of course, then it wouldn't take long for the main event to have relatively little to do with high-level chess.
Parent - - By Banned for Life (Gold) Date 2007-12-18 17:15
Yes, this would be a different kind of freestyle more reminiscent of professional wrestling. Could be a real crowd pleaser, although it might be hard on the equipment.
Parent - By Nelson Hernandez (Gold) Date 2007-12-18 18:13
Heh, it makes me laugh to think that eventually Fenollar will Google himself and this thread will come up.  Greetings, Manuel, hope we see you again next year!  Very likely you'll be dealing with ME next time, y entonces veremos quien es mas macho en la lucha libre!
Parent - - By Nelson Hernandez (Gold) Date 2007-12-18 18:22
Speaking of which, which of you mugs is inclined to make a ten-day appearance in Spain should this tournament be repeated?  Believe me, it would be a fantastically unprofitable venture all around.  But if enough were interested it could develop into a hilarious Chess Freestylers Behaving Badly video posted on YouTube.  Dagh could bring the booze, I could bring the cigars and Alan would be in charge of the strippers.  With a schedule of just one game a day there is ample time to get into serious mischief.
Parent - By Banned for Life (Gold) Date 2007-12-18 18:41
I would definitely go for something like this if there was enough advance notice to schedule some simultaneous business to make it worthwhile. As in this case, the norm for me is to find out about the event after it is over. Too bad, because I have some Ukrainian friends that wouldn't have to fake the psychotic homicidal behavior. :-)

Parent - - By 8lrr8 (***) Date 2007-12-19 02:05
see, now that's just wrong.  what fenollar and his goons did is akin to someone winning a (online) freestyle tourney via hacking.  or akin to playing (B&M) poker, and your opponent placing his hand over your chest to feel your heartbeat after u've made a big bet (we'll assume it's NL HE).  these actions, while not explicitly prohibited in the "rulesbook," destroy the spirit of the game.

but justice prevailed at least in this instance, as anson not only won his match against fenollar, but the tourney as well.
Parent - By Nelson Hernandez (Gold) Date 2007-12-19 02:41
Well, Anson winning was not really justice but the expected outcome when you make better moves.  I would not say Fenollar's clutch of fans were "goons"; they were merely hometown partisans in a game where there were no rules.  There can be no doubt that the tournament organizers will need to enforce some kind of order next time around as otherwise the tournament could become a farce.  Or a thrilling wrestling match, as Alan suggested.

Ah, one more tip for future attendees.  Bring electrician's tape.  Before each game wrap your power cord in such a way that nobody will be able to "accidentally" kick off the power at a crucial moment!  I'm serious, anarchism has had a long history in Spain!
Parent - - By BB (****) Date 2007-12-18 01:59

>Anson had a considerable language barrier over there as relatively few people spoke English.

Benidorm is particularly popular with British and Dutch tourists. In fact, there are whole sections of the city where you will rarely hear a word of Spanish and there are pubs on every corner advertising an "authentic British menu".

I won't make the obvious joke about food poisoning.

> Here's the main tournament site, Spanish fluency is required.

I'd have expected it to be in Catalan, or even Valencian.

The original (though not the final) program says:the players can use electronic dispositives... Games of 90' plus 30'' additional --- what happened to the increment? Of course, it also seems to say that 60 participants are necessary for this event . There is also PUEDEN SOLICITARSE HASTA 3 BYES - but I guess you can't ask for one at the last minute.
Parent - By Nelson Hernandez (Gold) Date 2007-12-18 02:23
If Anson asked room service for "bangers and chips" he surely got what was coming to him.  You would think that the Battle of Hastings would have resulted in French cuisine taking the British Isles by storm but I guess the Normans brought soldiers and not chefs.

That's a good point about the time increment not being in accord with what was billed.  There surely wasn't one during the tournament.  No idea why they dispensed with it.

The bit about 60 players being required was also a major source of pre-tournament worry, as we feared that the whole thing would get called off, resulting in wasted time and plane fare.  We spent quite some time attempting to get assurances on this score.  We received conflicting indications and were rather perplexed at times.

Correct on the byes: you were not permitted to just declare one on the spot.  It had to be coordinated.
Parent - By Intagrand (*) Date 2007-12-17 19:32
1. 2500 Euros but will be taxed, not sure how much the final figure will be. Also it was a requirement to stay at the Hotel for 9 days (I stayed 10 which cost me 640 euros) overall I should make a fair amount. It was a nice trip though, just a shame I caught a virus on the last days!
2. My opponent was about 10 minutes up at one stage. Torwards the end of the game, I had about 5 minutes to his 10. Once the clocks were less than 5 minutes, I no longer had to record the moves and could play very quickly. If I pondered his move successfully, I would reply instantly, sometimes a few moves were played before my clock ticked 1 second.
3. Once he made the mistake, at first I thought that I played too quickly and entered a wrong move which is why I paused to check everything. The evaluation swung to my favour, about -1.50 from a previous +0.5 or so. Soon after, it became clear I black had a win.
4. I was very shocked over his decision. I gave him my advice after the game to never resign so early. He was doing a lot of analysis and things weren't looking that good for him after losing the pawn. He spent a lot of time over his last 4 moves and I played mine very quickly, almost instantly. He feared he walked into my preparation and after burning up so much time on the clock, figured he would ultimately lose. Again, not a decision I would have taken myself. I was thinking of resigning early against Auryn in the 7th freestlye after he played h4 early in the game but I played on without success. He finished in 2nd place overall only half a point behind me no one can tell for sure what would have happened if he played on.
Parent - - By Nick (*****) Date 2007-12-17 12:01
BRILLIANT! How fantastic is that?!   Congratulations and really well done .. I hope Chessbase link to this event for wider publicity (Arno?)  Great shot of Anson and Mr. Anand.  I had a quick look at your games, Playchess theory abounds, from a pure opening perspective, ignoring all the hard centauring work, I comment:

1. Katzenmaier-Wildberries 18 Jul 2007 0-1
2. Amanve4e-Nospa 28 Apr 2007 1-0
3. No obvious root game (to me) .. I thought that 12 ... Nd7 was a good choice for black here so will need to investigate further
4. Lol that's funny - maybe someone whispered "you missed b6" in your opponents ear?  Still a lot to play for in this game I think.
5. Forgive me it looks like you took the foot off the pedal here ..  5 ... Nd4?! instead of 5 ... a6.  I'm sure you had your reasons though.
6. 12. Re1 looks like a nice improvement over a Deep Shredder 9 - Rybka 1.2 CCRL 40/40 game 3 Jun 2006 1/2-1/2
7. 12. Rd1 avoiding 12 a4 (Babylon 5 - Frucke43 9 Sep 2007 1-0) interesting !

You took two quad-core computers to Spain? Laptops?  Did you go by boat or trust them to London Airports baggage handlers!?
Parent - - By Nelson Hernandez (Gold) Date 2007-12-17 14:47
Anson trusted the airport baggage handlers.  Going to Spain, it all worked out.  Coming back, it looked like they hit one of the quads with a sledgehammer.  Luddites!  Fortunately the case was pretty sturdy and the damage was limited.  I was nervous about Anson going to Spain for that one reason.  I recommended he take the train instead!

Thanks for your analysis and kind words.
Parent - By Nick (*****) Date 2007-12-18 15:46

> Coming back, it looked like they hit one of the quads with a sledgehammer.

Somehow I am not surprised.   London St. Pancras to Paris is only 60 GBP on the Eurostar (train) .. no idea how much to get to Benidorm from there though.
Parent - - By Nelson Hernandez (Gold) Date 2007-12-18 01:31
I had to check your game analysis and I discovered something amusing.  Every game you referenced, we have.  And every game you referenced was not the novelty game in our book.  Fancy that!  :)
Parent - - By Nick (*****) Date 2007-12-18 15:47
Heh I am not surprised, my games DB only contains approx. 5.8M games.  Mostly crap admittedly, I mean, how can a Fritz 8 v Shredder 8 3+0 game from 2003 or so compare with a 16+0 battle between two Rybka quads from last week?
Parent - - By Nelson Hernandez (Gold) Date 2007-12-18 16:01
That's the funniest part!  Three of the games followed amateur engine lines from years ago.  Now you begin to see why we're so unpredictable!  Next time we face you, Nick, be ready for our Mephisto book.
Parent - By Nick (*****) Date 2007-12-18 23:41
Our swords have only crossed once in battle, I only needed a draw, I had no time to actually sit at the screen, a 10 year-old who has been ignored for a full day and NEEDS to play scrabble with her dad is a mighty force to be reckoned with you know.  Indeed TWO can play at the "copy old weak engine games" game.  You know, just between you and me, I think the way to draw with Cato is to find a game which looks like you are losing, and Cato is winning, skip ahead, see that it's really a draw, and play it - because you can be sure it's in Cato's book and hopefully Cato will play it thinking "if this carries on we'll just win".  Shh though, that's just between me and you, I wouldn't want it getting out, then everyone will get easy draws with Cato :)

[Event "6th PAL/CSS Freestyle Main Tournament"]
[Site ""]
[Date "2007.06.03"]
[Round "7"]
[White "Flyingfatman"]
[Black "Cato the Younger"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "C10"]
[PlyCount "81"]
[EventDate "2007.06.01"]
[EventType "swiss (rapid)"]
[EventRounds "8"]

1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 dxe4 4. Nxe4 Nd7 5. Nf3 Ngf6 6. Bg5 h6 7. Nxf6+ Nxf6
8. Be3 Bd6 9. Bd3 O-O 10. Qd2 Nd5 11. O-O b6 12. c4 Nxe3 13. Qxe3 Bb7 14. Be4
Bxe4 15. Qxe4 c5 16. Rad1 Qc7 17. dxc5 Bxc5 18. g3 Rad8 19. Rfe1 Be7 20. b3 Bf6
21. Kg2 Qc5 22. Qb7 a5 23. Rxd8 Rxd8 24. Re2 g5 25. Nd2 Bd4 26. Ne4 Qf8 27. Nd2
Qc5 28. Ne4 Qf8 29. Nd2 Qd6 30. Nf3 Bc3 31. Rc2 Bf6 32. Rd2 Qf8 33. Rxd8 Qxd8
34. h3 Qd6 35. Qe4 Kg7 36. Qb7 Bc3 37. Qe4 Bf6 38. Qb7 Bb2 39. Qe4 Bc3 40. Qb7
Bb2 41. Qe4 1/2-1/2

[Event "60m + 15s, rated"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2006.05.16"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Szemcsó, Rybka 1.2n 32-bit"]
[Black "Felix 2, Fritz 9"]
[Result "0-1"]
[WhiteElo "2661"]
[BlackElo "2493"]
[PlyCount "178"]
[EventDate "2006.09.21"]
[EventType "rapid"]

1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nd2 dxe4 4. Nxe4 Nd7 5. Nf3 Ngf6 6. Bg5 h6 7. Nxf6+ Nxf6
8. Be3 Nd5 9. Qd2 Bd6 10. Bd3 O-O 11. O-O b6 12. c4 Nxe3 13. Qxe3 Bb7 14. Be4
Bxe4 15. Qxe4 c5 16. Rad1 Qc7 17. dxc5 Bxc5 18. Rd3 Rad8 19. Rfd1 Rxd3 20. Qxd3
Be7 21. Qe4 a6 22. Qe2 Rd8 23. Rxd8+ Bxd8 24. g3 Bf6 25. b3 Qc6 26. Ne5 Qd6 27.
Nd3 Bc3 28. Kg2 g6 29. Qf3 e5 30. Nf4 Bd4 31. Nd5 Kg7 32. a4 h5 33. h3 f5 34.
g4 Qd8 35. gxh5 Qg5+ 36. Kf1 Qc1+ 37. Ke2 Qc2+ 38. Kf1 gxh5 39. Qg3+ Kf7 40.
Qh4 Kg6 41. Qf6+ Kh7 42. Qe7+ Kh6 43. Qd6+ Kh7 44. Qc7+ Kh8 45. Qb8+ Kg7 46.
Qc7+ Kg6 47. Qc6+ Kg7 48. Qd7+ Kh8 49. Qd8+ Kh7 50. Qd7+ Kh6 51. Ne3 Qb1+ 52.
Ke2 Qb2+ 53. Kf1 Bxe3 54. Qe6+ Kg5 55. Qg8+ Kf6 56. Qd8+ Ke6 57. Qd5+ Kf6 58.
Qd6+ Kg5 59. Qd8+ Kg6 60. fxe3 Qb1+ 61. Ke2 Qc2+ 62. Kf1 Qc1+ 63. Kf2 Qc2+ 64.
Kf3 Qe4+ 65. Ke2 Qg2+ 66. Ke1 Qg3+ 67. Ke2 Qg2+ 68. Ke1 Qxh3 69. Qg8+ Kh6 70.
Qh8+ Kg6 71. Qxe5 h4 72. Qd6+ Kh5 73. Qd1+ Kh6 74. Qd6+ Kh5 75. Kf2 Qg4 76. Qc7
Qe4 77. Qf7+ Kg4 78. Qg7+ Kh3 79. Qg1 a5 80. Qf1+ Kg4 81. Qd1+ Kg5 82. Qd8+ Kh5
83. Qh8+ Kg4 84. Qg8+ Kh3 85. Qg6 Qg4 86. Qe6 f4 87. Qd5 Qg3+ 88. Ke2 Qxe3+ 89.
Kd1 Qg1+ 0-1

PS. Time to dust off my Mephisto !
Parent - By Intagrand (*) Date 2007-12-21 12:30
Thanks a lot BigMomma!

It seems that Chessbase has taken a shine to the news and have published an article.
Parent - - By Roland Rösler (****) Date 2007-12-17 18:30
Only two questions:
1. You gave Anand your autograph (or you were to busy)?
2. You make an offer to Anand for his next Advanced Chess match?
Parent - - By Intagrand (*) Date 2007-12-17 19:10
1. Far too busy :-)
2. Shame, I didn't get round to making any such offers. I think that he just wanted to go and relax after playing for 4 hours on his feet :)
Parent - By Roland Rösler (****) Date 2007-12-17 19:43
Oh, I see, compassion (mercy?) is a great virtue :-).
Parent - - By Vasik Rajlich (Silver) Date 2007-12-20 13:43
Congrats Anson. You're on quite a roll at this ..

Parent - - By Ciron (**) Date 2007-12-21 12:46
Congratulations, Anson! Today I saw Nelson's report on ChessBase. Very instructive.

May be next year many freestylers will meet at Benidorm (if they organise another "Advanced Chess Tournament" - do you think so?), or at any other place, where tournament organisers will follow this example.

By the way, I am trying to prepare the 8th PAL/CSS Freestyle on in February/March. The Benidorm event should be a good argument for the sponsor to do so. (Same as the Anand-Kramnik match in Moscow, which was very close to Freestyle, as players were making more extensive use of engines than ever before.)

Best regards,
Arno Nickel
ICCF GM & Freestyle Promoter
Parent - By Intagrand (*) Date 2007-12-21 13:29
Thank you Arno,

Competing in this tournament was great fun but can be quite costly if you are not a local competitor or don't manage to finish first. Food, accommodation and transport summed to a comparable figure as the first prize for me but I took away great memories. One which will last was seeing GM Anand play a very nice attacking combination during the simul which ended in a rook sac that evaluated as mate in 5.

There was a lot of interest from strong titled players about the advanced chess tournament but being familiar with the setup, I was really intrigued at the play of titled players (it's the first time I've seen GMs play live).

I think the future of freestyle chess is a promising one and I hope it receives the necessary promotion to keep it going.


Anson Williams
Parent - By Intagrand (*) Date 2007-12-21 13:17
Thanks a lot Vas. Your hard work in pushing the boundaries of the strength of chess engines has made life easier for non masters when it comes to freestyle chess. I hope you're development continues in leaps and bounds and will be evident in Rybka 3.
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