12.Nxd5
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.Nxe5 d6 4.Nxf7 Kxf7 5.d4 c5 6,dxc5 d5 7.e5 Ng4 8.Bc4 Be6 9.Nc3 Bxc5 10.Bxd5 Bxf2+
11.Kf1 Bxd5 12.Nxd5 Bb6
11.Kf1 Bxd5 12.Nxd5 Bb6
rn1q3r/pp3kpp/1b6/3NP3/6n1/8/PPP3PP/R1BQ1K1R w - - 0 13
when i played 8...Be6 i could not get Rybka to play this move 12...Bb6 although i thought it was good,i had to force it.dont know if its best but its best i could find.
i doubt anyone has book here including Nelson.
That was a safe bet.
13.Qf3+
13...Ke8
14.Nxb6
Novelty move.
Osthus (1930)-Nittschalk (1801), 0-1, 2003. Game ended in 23 moves. The ELO ratings ought to tell you something. Thought I'd elaborate on the novelty announcement.
Thank you Nelson.
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.Nxe5 d6 4.Nxf7 Kxf7 5.d4 c5 6,dxc5 d5 7.e5 Ng4 8.Bc4 Be6 9.Nc3 Bxc5 10.Bxd5 Bxf2+
11.Kf1 Bxd5 12.Nxd5 Bb6 13.Qf3+ Ke8 14.Nxb6 Rf8
11.Kf1 Bxd5 12.Nxd5 Bb6 13.Qf3+ Ke8 14.Nxb6 Rf8
rn1qkr2/pp4pp/1N6/4P3/6n1/5Q2/PPP3PP/R1B2K1R w - - 0 15
15.Bf4
15...axb6
16.Qxg4
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.Nxe5 d6 4.Nxf7 Kxf7 5.d4 c5 6,dxc5 d5 7.e5 Ng4 8.Bc4 Be6 9.Nc3 Bxc5 10.Bxd5 Bxf2+
11.Kf1 Bxd5 12.Nxd5 Bb6 13.Qf3+ Ke8 14.Nxb6 Rf8 15.Bf4 axb6 16.Qxg4 Qd7
11.Kf1 Bxd5 12.Nxd5 Bb6 13.Qf3+ Ke8 14.Nxb6 Rf8 15.Bf4 axb6 16.Qxg4 Qd7
rn2kr2/1p1q2pp/1p6/4P3/5BQ1/8/PPP3PP/R4K1R w - - 0 17
17.Qh5+
17...g6
18.Qf3
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.Nxe5 d6 4.Nxf7 Kxf7 5.d4 c5 6,dxc5 d5 7.e5 Ng4 8.Bc4 Be6 9.Nc3 Bxc5 10.Bxd5 Bxf2+
11.Kf1 Bxd5 12.Nxd5 Bb6 13.Qf3+ Ke8 14.Nxb6 Rf8 15.Bf4 axb6 16.Qxg4 Qd7 17.Qh5+ g6 18.Qf3 Qc6
11.Kf1 Bxd5 12.Nxd5 Bb6 13.Qf3+ Ke8 14.Nxb6 Rf8 15.Bf4 axb6 16.Qxg4 Qd7 17.Qh5+ g6 18.Qf3 Qc6
rn2kr2/1p4pp/1pq5/4P3/5B2/5Q2/PPP3PP/R4K1R w - - 0 18
19.Kf2
19...Qxf3+
20.Kxf3
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.Nxe5 d6 4.Nxf7 Kxf7 5.d4 c5 6,dxc5 d5 7.e5 Ng4 8.Bc4 Be6 9.Nc3 Bxc5 10.Bxd5 Bxf2+
11.Kf1 Bxd5 12.Nxd5 Bb6 13.Qf3+ Ke8 14.Nxb6 Rf8 15.Bf4 axb6 16.Qxg4 Qd7 17.Qh5+ g6 18.Qf3 Qc6
19.Kf2 Qxf3+ 20.Kxf3 g5
11.Kf1 Bxd5 12.Nxd5 Bb6 13.Qf3+ Ke8 14.Nxb6 Rf8 15.Bf4 axb6 16.Qxg4 Qd7 17.Qh5+ g6 18.Qf3 Qc6
19.Kf2 Qxf3+ 20.Kxf3 g5
rn2kr2/1p5p/1p6/4P1p1/5B2/5K2/PPP3PP/R6R w - g6 0 20
21.Kg4
21...gxf4
22.Rhf1
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.Nxe5 d6 4.Nxf7 Kxf7 5.d4 c5 6,dxc5 d5 7.e5 Ng4 8.Bc4 Be6 9.Nc3 Bxc5 10.Bxd5 Bxf2+
11.Kf1 Bxd5 12.Nxd5 Bb6 13.Qf3+ Ke8 14.Nxb6 Rf8 15.Bf4 axb6 16.Qxg4 Qd7 17.Qh5+ g6 18.Qf3 Qc6
19.Kf2 Qxf3+ 20.Kxf3 g5 21.Kg4 gxf4 22.Rhf1 h5+
11.Kf1 Bxd5 12.Nxd5 Bb6 13.Qf3+ Ke8 14.Nxb6 Rf8 15.Bf4 axb6 16.Qxg4 Qd7 17.Qh5+ g6 18.Qf3 Qc6
19.Kf2 Qxf3+ 20.Kxf3 g5 21.Kg4 gxf4 22.Rhf1 h5+
rn2kr2/1p6/1p6/4P2p/5pK1/8/PPP3PP/R4R2 w - h6 0 22
23.Kxh5
must admit,a strange position indeed.
Very strange indeed. The d4 line is busted, Nc3 is the best chances for white.
not so sure as you about this.
if this is true though,this game has been wothwhile then.
That's for sure. Don't make d4, Nc3 is the only chance for white. That is only my opinion others maybe able to show something else?
I just played Nc3 in one of my correspondence games:
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.Nxe5 d6 4.Nxf7 Kxf7 5.Nc3 c5 6.Bc4+ Be6 7.*
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.Nxe5 d6 4.Nxf7 Kxf7 5.Nc3 c5 6.Bc4+ Be6 7.*
Much better move then d4.
Let me know how you get on in this game.
Let me know how you get on in this game.
Edit: Sorry Mark I was wrong he played the d4 line.
I used d4 in that game. I want to give Nc3 a chance
Sorry your right I just looked...
ok jim lets play now speed chess at ficgs
sorry,just realised i havent played move.
22...Nc6
22...Nc6
No problem.
23.h4
23.h4
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.Nxe5 d6 4.Nxf7 Kxf7 5.d4 c5 6,dxc5 d5 7.e5 Ng4 8.Bc4 Be6 9.Nc3 Bxc5 10.Bxd5 Bxf2+
11.Kf1 Bxd5 12.Nxd5 Bb6 13.Qf3+ Ke8 14.Nxb6 Rf8 15.Bf4 axb6 16.Qxg4 Qd7 17.Qh5+ g6 18.Qf3 Qc6
19.Kf2 Qxf3+ 20.Kxf3 g5 21.Kg4 gxf4 22.Rhf1 h5+ 23.Kxh5 Nc6 24.h4 Nxe5
11.Kf1 Bxd5 12.Nxd5 Bb6 13.Qf3+ Ke8 14.Nxb6 Rf8 15.Bf4 axb6 16.Qxg4 Qd7 17.Qh5+ g6 18.Qf3 Qc6
19.Kf2 Qxf3+ 20.Kxf3 g5 21.Kg4 gxf4 22.Rhf1 h5+ 23.Kxh5 Nc6 24.h4 Nxe5
r3kr2/1p6/1p6/4n2K/5p1P/8/PPP3P1/R4R2 w - - 0 25
25.Kg5
25...Ra5
Well played Paul. I resign.
thanks Mark.
I could play on for another 20+ moves but you will win in the end.
4.Nc3 is the better choice for white.
not sure what is best fourth move,the whole opening looks a bit dodgy to me,maybe ok otb but with computer help and at corr level very difficult for white.
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