Poll
Who's the best centaur? (Closed)
| Alan (b3) | 11 | 5% | |
| Anson Williams (Cato) | 11 | 5% | |
| Anthony Cozzie | 10 | 5% | |
| Dagh Nielsen (Flying Saucers) | 17 | 8% | |
| Deep Junior | 10 | 5% | |
| Dennis Breder (Klosterfrau) | 10 | 5% | |
| Erdogan Günes (Zorro Z) | 10 | 5% | |
| Eros Riccio (Auryn) | 10 | 5% | |
| Graham Banks | 11 | 5% | |
| Iweta Rajlich | 10 | 5% | |
| Jiri Dufek (Xakru) | 10 | 5% | |
| Joerg Blauert (Rentner2) | 10 | 5% | |
| Marc Lacrosse | 10 | 5% | |
| Michael Krasenkow (Rajlich) | 10 | 5% | |
| Nelson Hernandez (Cato) | 10 | 5% | |
| Patrick S (Etaoin) | 10 | 5% | |
| Roman Chytilek (Xakru) | 10 | 5% | |
| Stephen Z (ZackS) | 10 | 5% | |
| Sujay Jagannathan (Hercules01) | 12 | 6% | |
| Vasik Rajlich | 15 | 7% |
Perhaps I should have read the help: Each poll can contain up to 20 options. Registered users can cast one vote for one option per poll.
Sorry if I was in violation of this - should not the polling mechanism itself demand compliance?
Sorry if I was in violation of this - should not the polling mechanism itself demand compliance?
Yeah, we're finally getting some of that SNR that plagues other forums. Maybe the polling mechanism can be cleaned up somehow.
Vas
Vas
What is " SRN " I cannot find it.
[wiki]The initialism SNR may refer to:
* Signal-to-noise ratio
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* Sporting News Radio
* Service National de Renseignements, secret service in Burundi
* Société Nouvelle de Roulements:
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SRN redirects to "Registered nurse".
* Signal-to-noise ratio
* Supernova remnant
* Sporting News Radio
* Service National de Renseignements, secret service in Burundi
* Société Nouvelle de Roulements:
* Spiritual Not Religious[/wiki]
SRN redirects to "Registered nurse".
He is referring to signal-to-noise ratio. Actually, the problem of which he speaks is that the SNR here is actually getting lower, like that in the other fora, instead of remaining high, which is what you have with good data: for every bit of noise, you should have a large signal, and the higher the SNR, the more reliable the data.
Well, I was not aware of the fact that one could vote more than once for other " Centaur's. " However, I see no reason to vote twice and weaken my vote for, Dagh- by the bye (thanks David) I sense a little envy on the part of, Vas-what's with that? Where's your head? (per your request) Man! You are so,so,so,so competitive. :-)
sidserious-(Iweta, saw you coming a mile away-she is out strategical and had you tactical in her sights long before she ringed you-dude! Smart woman.)
P.S I would have voted for her over you! No offence
sidserious-(Iweta, saw you coming a mile away-she is out strategical and had you tactical in her sights long before she ringed you-dude! Smart woman.)
P.S I would have voted for her over you! No offence
'Srn' a Chorra Bhuilg, a typical Nose, above Creagbheiteachain in Glen Scaddle 'Srn' is the Gaelic word for nose and is the name of some hills in the Scottish Highlands.
sidserious-aye!
sidserious-aye!
Okay! So I got it wrong! SNR -
Ok, you got me :)
Vas
Vas
Well, it's just a different form of voting. Actually, approval voting (as this is called) has a number of desirable properties over just pick-one voting, so I wouldn't call the results meaningless.
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But this isn't truly approval voting--there are some people voting to intentionally bring up the numbers of those with fewer votes, but not those with more votes. Currently, all candidates except for Dagh have 5%--I would consider these results meaningless. I think it was a good poll question, though; if one wishes to find meaningful results, then I think they're available in the discussions in this thread.
Well, yes, any voting scheme where people can watch the results before they vote is most likely wrong in some way. :-)
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Quiz is quiz, only. I will not take it too seriously.
Fortunately we are not deciding how far is the Moon from the Earth, but it could be either decided by voting. :-). That could be the real problem.
Who is being the better centaur the tournament results are showing.
Rgds
Hetman
Fortunately we are not deciding how far is the Moon from the Earth, but it could be either decided by voting. :-). That could be the real problem.
Who is being the better centaur the tournament results are showing.
Rgds
Hetman
Yes this is meant to be fun for sure, we may never know which individual would be strongest head to head, Dagh has played alone in the past (and done very well!) and also teamed up in the last two freestyles .. the results of these PAL events are telling us which team is best on the day (or weekend(s)) .. this fun poll is intended as some light humour and speculation. I see that some interesting voting strategy has been taking place but Dagh is in the lead! I expected Anson and Vas to be up there too and they are .. I read (pronounced "red") in an append from Vas some time ago that pound for pound he thought that probably Dagh was the best ... I wonder if that view is shared by Anson .. it may well be.
The next freestyle will be blood, Eros claims to be sitting on some killer novelties already and we expect to see another 24. Bc7!!!! calibre shot from you-know-who, yes that's four exclamation marks there to beat the three that the BCM gave an Ivanchuk move .. against Lautier I think in the mid 90's. Some Queen sac I think :) In Dagh we trust!
The next freestyle will be blood, Eros claims to be sitting on some killer novelties already and we expect to see another 24. Bc7!!!! calibre shot from you-know-who, yes that's four exclamation marks there to beat the three that the BCM gave an Ivanchuk move .. against Lautier I think in the mid 90's. Some Queen sac I think :) In Dagh we trust!
You have point the important matter - I have not noticed- that in the Freestyle the teams are playing. So there are teams of centaurs and is very difficult to find the best centaur :-) that way. But... how to organize the individual centaurs tournament, might be the advanced chess ?
Rgds
Hetman
Rgds
Hetman
Anson thinks he's the best centaur, but being a gentleman he'd never say so in a public forum. If you read my comments elsewhere you'll see I agree with him, if you omit opening preparation and strictly go by who is the best at improvising from any given position. But if you include opening prep (and I don't see how you can't) then it is reasonable to concede that Dagh is the best all-around Freestyler because he is highly skilled in every aspect of the game. It certainly doesn't bother me to say it; he's damned good at what he does and he deserves the recognition.
Now, if you were pitting Dagh all alone against Anson, Wing and myself, all of our resources concentrated...well. :)
Now, if you were pitting Dagh all alone against Anson, Wing and myself, all of our resources concentrated...well. :)
Sure Cato is the best, because he is no good player, but knows perfectly how to handle computer results and use their weaknesses
Very insightful.
ok, i explain:
he plays much weaker as human than me or even more as vas
but he knows what weak judgement have engines in certain positions and he plays for it
he plays much weaker as human than me or even more as vas
but he knows what weak judgement have engines in certain positions and he plays for it
Dummkoller (Kreuzfahrtschiff) was very impressed by his lost against Anson in the 6th Freestyle. I think too, that Ansons and Wings play was very impressive in this game.
No explanation was needed. You know, I don't totally understand Anson and Wing's method either, never having been in London when they are playing. I'll bet it is similar to several others, but there is something else going on that has to be different. Maybe he is more efficient or more intuitive with computer data. All I know is that time and again I have seen 0.00 or something close to that in my evals, and Anson pops up to say something terse like "looks good"--his only message to me during the entire game--and about twelve moves and 30 minutes later we're +1.00 and pulling away fast. Those laconic messages are the death knell for our opponents every time. Honestly guys you cannot imagine what a joy it is to have a teammate like Anson.
FWIW - when Dagh played on our team, we just gave him the controls and left him alone. It sure makes everything more convenient :)
The pure centaur question is interesting. I haven't really changed my opinion about it, although Anson is also on the radar now. It's also a bit artificial, though, sort of like asking who is the best all-around 1-on-1 basketball player.
Vas
The pure centaur question is interesting. I haven't really changed my opinion about it, although Anson is also on the radar now. It's also a bit artificial, though, sort of like asking who is the best all-around 1-on-1 basketball player.
Vas
Fortunately we are not deciding how far is the Moon from the Earth, but it could be either decided by voting.
It was either in the state of Ohio or Indiana some decades ago where it was voted in the state legislature that by law, the ratio of a circle's circumference to its diameter (i.e. the number pi) was to be precisely 3.14.
EDIT: I suppose it would be an interesting exercise to shove in some numbers into the Schwarzschild equation and solve to find out exactly how massive this must make Earth "by definition" such that the gravitational field curves spacetime sufficiently for this to happen.
It was either in the state of Ohio or Indiana some decades ago where it was voted in the state legislature that by law, the ratio of a circle's circumference to its diameter (i.e. the number pi) was to be precisely 3.14.
EDIT: I suppose it would be an interesting exercise to shove in some numbers into the Schwarzschild equation and solve to find out exactly how massive this must make Earth "by definition" such that the gravitational field curves spacetime sufficiently for this to happen.
I have just done this, and the answer is that for pi to be exactly 3.14 for a circle cirumnavigating Earth at the equator (obviously I need to specify the size of the circle, as an arbitrarily small circle has a ratio of circumference to diameter equal to the number pi in any smoothly curved geometry, which we have as long as there isn't a black hole in the center), Earth must have a mass of 2.177 * 10^30 kg, which is about 1.1 times that of Sun and over 360,000 times Earth's actual mass.
Well, it gets even worse; the value was defined to be 4, not 3.14...
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I just checked (parts of) the original bill (which died in the Indiana Senate) and some discussion about it, and the bill itself doesn't seem to give an actual definition except an implication of 3.2. This would, of course, be really bad, as this can only happen with negative curvature, which cannot be created by a source of gravity. I have also seen rumors that the bill defined it to be 3.0. If this was the case, it would imply that Earth has a mass of 1.94 * 10^32 kg (which is about 100 solar masses) to cause the necessary curvature for this to occur for a great circle. Now we have another problem. The Schwarzschild radius of such a thing is 287 km, which is, of course, smaller than Earth, but it turns out to be impossible for electron degeneracy pressure to support the gravitational pull of such an object--it would collapse further, and before neutron degeneracy pressure would even apply, Earth would collapse to within its own Schwarzschild radius and thus, by definition, become a black hole.
Pi is defined in the bible (1 Kings 7:23) as being equal to 3.0.
Alan
Alan
No, it is not defined to be 3.0. 3 is used as an approximation, or at least some number such that ten * pi =~ thirty.
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Well, Hiram's creation was round, and it was 10 cubits in diameter and 30 cubits in radius. You do the math. :-)
Alan
Alan
It would seem that if the intent in the Bible was for it to be an approximation, it would still have said 31 cubits around instead of 30, so that it would at least be correct to two significant figures.
Actually, the value of 3 was known to be only an approximation, but this value could be used for the calculation of the sale of circular plot of land with a given diameter.
Alan, it's not that discussions about the Schwarzschild Radius and the correct interpretation of the bible's position on assigning a value to what we call pi,not to mention the goings on of the Indiana Senate in attempting to legislate a precise
(but wrong!) number for this don't,taken together,bring me to the point of full arousal.
It's just that I have to wonder whether or not the members of this forum are aware that in World War 1 the French army deployed some 64 divisions in their defense of the fortress of Verdun.In the longest protracted battle in recorded
history(10 months) nearly 3 of every 4 French soldiers in their entire army saw service at Verdun at one time or another during the battle.
Let me stop you right there,Nelson. I'll have you know that this information was derived from arduous research conducted by my collaborator,Sen.Joeseph Biden,and I without any prior knowledge of some post that you may,or may not,
have once upon a time posted on this forum
Regards,
David
(but wrong!) number for this don't,taken together,bring me to the point of full arousal.
It's just that I have to wonder whether or not the members of this forum are aware that in World War 1 the French army deployed some 64 divisions in their defense of the fortress of Verdun.In the longest protracted battle in recorded
history(10 months) nearly 3 of every 4 French soldiers in their entire army saw service at Verdun at one time or another during the battle.
Let me stop you right there,Nelson. I'll have you know that this information was derived from arduous research conducted by my collaborator,Sen.Joeseph Biden,and I without any prior knowledge of some post that you may,or may not,
have once upon a time posted on this forum
Regards,
David
Ahh, Biden--of the people running in 2008 for that party, the only person with any gonads.
Turbo,
You sound politically unintentional and without cause-to say the least, a man without a path! If that is all you can say- stick with analyzing chess positions and playing Zappa Mexico against Rybka. :-)
You sound politically unintentional and without cause-to say the least, a man without a path! If that is all you can say- stick with analyzing chess positions and playing Zappa Mexico against Rybka. :-)
A man without a path? Oh, I guess it would be true that all paths other than yours wouldn't look like paths to you! :-D
Turbo,
You couldn't be more wrong!
You couldn't be more wrong!
Perhaps--I had temporarily forgotten about all of your different types of meds :-)
Medication that I take are pain killers that don't work-they've tried just about everything. At least the muscle loss is slowing down but now I have massive arthritis in my shoulders and neck probably from camping on the ground in the winter-fixing cars-et al. Now I may need a shoulder replacement. I have a high tolerance for opioid-
Turbo-think on this- if I don't get disability by Dec I'll be out of a phone and out of the Internet-that should make a lot of people happy. Quite frankly I have heard horror stories about how difficult is to get disability. So, lets have some fun in the interim.
Turbo-think on this- if I don't get disability by Dec I'll be out of a phone and out of the Internet-that should make a lot of people happy. Quite frankly I have heard horror stories about how difficult is to get disability. So, lets have some fun in the interim.
Robert, I hope you're kidding; are you making a caricature of your old enemy on this forum? If not, I'm sorry, and I won't make any jokes on such stuff (assuming that you don't, though you have in the past...).
Nope!
Turbo,
I thought I'd better clarify what happened-I was able to get three months free from Verizon and then a discount for DSL per month. They will do that for you if you call them and plead poverty. Once your a long term costomer they are will do their utmost to keep you going. I can never fault them. They've given me every break in the book. I'm just running out breaks. I don't mind plugging Verizon they have been good to me.
Regards,
Robert
I thought I'd better clarify what happened-I was able to get three months free from Verizon and then a discount for DSL per month. They will do that for you if you call them and plead poverty. Once your a long term costomer they are will do their utmost to keep you going. I can never fault them. They've given me every break in the book. I'm just running out breaks. I don't mind plugging Verizon they have been good to me.
Regards,
Robert
Robert,
that's great news about Verizon and your DSL internet service.
I just hope that the powers deciding disability are, in your case, of the inclusive persuasion.
Keep us posted and best wishes,
David
that's great news about Verizon and your DSL internet service.
I just hope that the powers deciding disability are, in your case, of the inclusive persuasion.
Keep us posted and best wishes,
David
Well, I'm sorry to hear about your situation, but that's nice that Verizon has this policy. It's a smart policy for them, too--ordinary people hear about it and conclude that these are probably customer-friendly people, and are thus motivated to switch over (though we don't have that option where I live). Anyway, I wish you good luck on everything...
Alan, it's not that discussions about the Schwarzchild radius and the correct biblical evaluation of pi,together with the goings on of the Indiana Senate in attempting to legistate a precise(and wrong!) value for pi don't bring me to the
point of arousal,but I was wondering whether the people on this forum were aware that in World War 1 the French army had deployed some 64 divisions to defend the fortress of Verdun! In fact , this longest battle in recorded history(10 months)
was to see nearly 3 out of every 4 French soldiers in their entire army present at Verdun at one time or another during the battle.
Ahhhhhhhhhhh Nelson,I know what you're thinking but Joe Biden and I collaborated in unearthing this fascinating tidbit of information completely ignorant of any earlier post you may,or may not,have made.
Regards,
David
point of arousal,but I was wondering whether the people on this forum were aware that in World War 1 the French army had deployed some 64 divisions to defend the fortress of Verdun! In fact , this longest battle in recorded history(10 months)
was to see nearly 3 out of every 4 French soldiers in their entire army present at Verdun at one time or another during the battle.
Ahhhhhhhhhhh Nelson,I know what you're thinking but Joe Biden and I collaborated in unearthing this fascinating tidbit of information completely ignorant of any earlier post you may,or may not,have made.
Regards,
David
Ah yes, the number of French divisions at the battle of Verdun. We must never forget. I quote my favorite passage from George Orwell's debut book from 1933, "Down and Out in Paris and London":
...about midnight there was a piercing shout of "Citoyens!" and the sound of a chair falling over. A blond, red-faced workman had risen to his feet and banging a bottle on the table. Everyone stopped singing; the word went round, "Sh! Furex is starting!" Furex was a strange creature, a Limousin stonemason who worked steadily all the week and drank himself into a kind of paroxysm on Saturdays. He had lost his memory and could not remember anything before the war, and would have gone to pieces through drink if Madame F. had not taken care of him. On Saturday evenings at about five o'clock she would say to someone, "Catch Furex before he spends his wages," and when he had been caught she would take away his money, leave him enough for one good drink. One week he escaped, and, rolling blind drunk in the Place Monge, was run over by a car and badly hurt.
The queer thing about Furex was that, though he was a Communist when sober, he turned violently patriotic when drunk. He started the evening with good Communist principles, but after four or five litres he was a rampant Chauvinist, denouncing spies, challenging all foreigners to a fight, and, if he was not prevented, throwing bottles. It was at this stage that he made his speech--for he made a patriotic speech every Saturday night. The speech was always the same, word for word. It ran:
"Citizens of the Republic, are there any Frenchmen here? If there are any Frenchmen here, I rise to remind them--to remind them in effect, of the glorious days of the war. When one looks back at that time of comradeship and heroism--one looks back, in effect, upon that time of comradeship and heroism. When one remembers the heroes who are dead--one remembers, in effect, the heroes who are dead. Citizens of the Republic, I was wounded at Verdun--"
Here he partially undressed and showed the wound he had received at Verdun. There were shouts of applause. We thought nothing in the world could be funnier than this speech of Furex's. He was a well-known spectacle in the quarter; people used to come in from other bistros to watch him when his fit started.
The word was passed round to bait Furex. With a wink to the others someone called for silence, and asked him to sing the "Marseillaise." He sang it well, in fine bass voice, with patriotic gurgling noises deep down in his chest when he came to "Auxes armes, citoyens! Formez vos bataillons!" Veritable tears rolled down his cheeks; he was too drunk to see that everyone was laughing at him. Then, before he had finished, two strong workmen seized him by either arm and held him down, while Azaya shouted, "Vive l'Allemagne! A bas la France!" while Furex struggled to get at them. But suddenly he spoiled the fun. His face turned pale and doleful, his limbs went limp, and before anyone could stop him he was sick on the table. Then Madame F. hoisted him like a sack and carried him up to bed. In the morning he reappeared quiet and civil, and bought a copy of L'Humanite.
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...about midnight there was a piercing shout of "Citoyens!" and the sound of a chair falling over. A blond, red-faced workman had risen to his feet and banging a bottle on the table. Everyone stopped singing; the word went round, "Sh! Furex is starting!" Furex was a strange creature, a Limousin stonemason who worked steadily all the week and drank himself into a kind of paroxysm on Saturdays. He had lost his memory and could not remember anything before the war, and would have gone to pieces through drink if Madame F. had not taken care of him. On Saturday evenings at about five o'clock she would say to someone, "Catch Furex before he spends his wages," and when he had been caught she would take away his money, leave him enough for one good drink. One week he escaped, and, rolling blind drunk in the Place Monge, was run over by a car and badly hurt.
The queer thing about Furex was that, though he was a Communist when sober, he turned violently patriotic when drunk. He started the evening with good Communist principles, but after four or five litres he was a rampant Chauvinist, denouncing spies, challenging all foreigners to a fight, and, if he was not prevented, throwing bottles. It was at this stage that he made his speech--for he made a patriotic speech every Saturday night. The speech was always the same, word for word. It ran:
"Citizens of the Republic, are there any Frenchmen here? If there are any Frenchmen here, I rise to remind them--to remind them in effect, of the glorious days of the war. When one looks back at that time of comradeship and heroism--one looks back, in effect, upon that time of comradeship and heroism. When one remembers the heroes who are dead--one remembers, in effect, the heroes who are dead. Citizens of the Republic, I was wounded at Verdun--"
Here he partially undressed and showed the wound he had received at Verdun. There were shouts of applause. We thought nothing in the world could be funnier than this speech of Furex's. He was a well-known spectacle in the quarter; people used to come in from other bistros to watch him when his fit started.
The word was passed round to bait Furex. With a wink to the others someone called for silence, and asked him to sing the "Marseillaise." He sang it well, in fine bass voice, with patriotic gurgling noises deep down in his chest when he came to "Auxes armes, citoyens! Formez vos bataillons!" Veritable tears rolled down his cheeks; he was too drunk to see that everyone was laughing at him. Then, before he had finished, two strong workmen seized him by either arm and held him down, while Azaya shouted, "Vive l'Allemagne! A bas la France!" while Furex struggled to get at them. But suddenly he spoiled the fun. His face turned pale and doleful, his limbs went limp, and before anyone could stop him he was sick on the table. Then Madame F. hoisted him like a sack and carried him up to bed. In the morning he reappeared quiet and civil, and bought a copy of L'Humanite.
;)
the french army at verun was 1st army(dubail) 256,000. 2nd army(de castelnau) 200,000. 3rd army(ruffrey) 168,000. 4th army(de langle de cary) 193,000. 5th army(lanrezac) 254,000. cavalry corps 3 divisions. right flank guard 3 divs. left flank guard 3 divs. a very offensive formation however the geman plan under von schlieffen was equally offensive. maybe we should leave that for another day. excuse spelling.
I'm not one for George Orwell but how about Stendhal- and especial the syndrome named after him " Stendhal Syndrome" or Stendhal's Syndrome is a psychosomatic illness that causes rapid heartbeat, dizziness, confusion and even hallucinations when an individual is exposed to art ,usually when the art is particularly 'beautiful' or a large amount of art is in a single place." Wiki.
Stendhals, " The Red and the Black " is one of my favorites. A peasant, much like Turbo, daydreaming of the day he might aspire to the ranks of the likes of Anthony Cozzie-
Stendhals, " The Red and the Black " is one of my favorites. A peasant, much like Turbo, daydreaming of the day he might aspire to the ranks of the likes of Anthony Cozzie-
Nelson, I got a big kick from your posting of the lyrics from "Burn On" but an even bigger one from seeing this passage for the first time.
Great stuff and please keep on sharing.
Thanks and regards,
David
Great stuff and please keep on sharing.
Thanks and regards,
David
nelson, i just been reading,the memoirs of marshal joffre, when asked about the war plan he said (you ask me a heap of things to which i cannot reply.i know nothinng.) this appeals to my sense of humour,it could have been a blackadder or monty python answer.
30 doesn't imply two significant digits.
Vas
Vas
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