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- - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2010-11-30 22:05 Edited 2010-12-01 21:08
(Vytron, known for writing IV, 4 in Roman numerals, as N)

Also Known As Dutch open - 4. game vs. Jonny with 17.h4

Nightmare challenges are about replaying a game up until some point, then deviating with a new move trying to change game result.

Source:

http://rybkaforum.net/cgi-bin/rybkaforum/topic_show.pl?tid=19550

Previous Nightmare Challenges:

1.d4 (AKA Mess Chess) with 31.Re1
Team B vs Team A (KOT) with 45...Kd5
Problem in evaluating material imbalances with 1...Bg8

Game:

1. d4 f5 2. g3 Nf6 3. Bg2 g6 4. Nf3 Bg7 5. c4 O-O 6. O-O d6 7. Nc3 e6 8.
Qc2 Nc6 9. Rd1 Qe7 10. a3 a5 11. Be3 Nd8 12. Ra2 b6 13. Ng5 Bb7 14. Bxb7
Nxb7 15. h3 a4

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Good luck Paul! I't always fun to try to find a win if there is one in these games! :smile:
Parent - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2010-11-30 22:24
i do think blacks move 15 was good however i must grab the pawn and see if i can hold the draw.

16.Nxa4
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2010-11-30 23:36
you must play Nh5 here as in game and then my probs start.like Vas i did not think much of Jonny's move 17.Kh2 and feel sure i can improve on this.Rybka wants to play 17.Nc3 however i am not convinced yet that this is whites best move.remember i am fighting for a draw in this game.
Parent - - By TheHug (Bronze) [us] Date 2010-11-30 23:42
I hope your watching the 3 way match. I'm playing like Paul Morphy out there and its about to get more interesting :twisted:
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2010-11-30 23:50
i keep looking but its way over my head.:eek:
Parent - - By BigBen (****) Date 2010-12-01 07:59

>i keep looking but its way over my head


Ditto :lol: hurts my eyes even looking at the board lol

Regards
Parent - By TheHug (Bronze) [us] Date 2010-12-01 08:12
There is no doubt what kind of chess I like to play over the board :lol:
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2010-12-01 02:24

> you must play Nh5


Indeed! I still looked at the alternatives, just in case.

1. d4 f5 2. g3 Nf6 3. Bg2 g6 4. Nf3 Bg7 5. c4 O-O 6. O-O d6 7. Nc3 e6 8. Qc2 Nc6 9. Rd1 Qe7 10. a3 a5 11. Be3 Nd8 12. Ra2 b6 13. Ng5 Bb7 14. Bxb7 Nxb7 15. h3 a4 16. Nxa4 Nh5

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The 3way chess game is also above my head, it feels like a race between TheHug and tomski to mate me!
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2010-12-01 09:09
1. d4 f5 2. g3 Nf6 3. Bg2 g6 4. Nf3 Bg7 5. c4 O-O 6. O-O d6 7. Nc3 e6 8. Qc2 Nc6 9. Rd1 Qe7 10. a3 a5 11. Be3 Nd8 12. Ra2 b6 13. Ng5 Bb7 14. Bxb7 Nxb7 15. h3 a4 16. Nxa4 Nh5 17.h4 



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Parent - By TheHug (Bronze) [us] Date 2010-12-01 09:13
Already an improvement over the actually game :smile:
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2010-12-02 00:39
1. d4 f5 2. g3 Nf6 3. Bg2 g6 4. Nf3 Bg7 5. c4 O-O 6. O-O d6 7. Nc3 e6 8. Qc2 Nc6 9. Rd1 Qe7 10. a3 a5 11. Be3 Nd8 12. Ra2 b6 13. Ng5 Bb7 14. Bxb7 Nxb7 15. h3 a4 16. Nxa4 Nh5 17. h4 f4

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Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2010-12-02 00:57
18.gxf4 and if Nxf4 19.Nc3
Parent - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2010-12-02 21:16
Accepted.

1. d4 f5 2. g3 Nf6 3. Bg2 g6 4. Nf3 Bg7 5. c4 O-O 6. O-O d6 7. Nc3 e6 8. Qc2 Nc6 9. Rd1 Qe7 10. a3 a5 11. Be3 Nd8 12. Ra2 b6 13. Ng5 Bb7 14. Bxb7 Nxb7 15. h3 a4 16. Nxa4 Nh5 17. h4 f4 18. gxf4 Nxf4 19. Nc3

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My turn again.
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2010-12-02 22:51
I'm liking what I'm seeing so far :smile:

1. d4 f5 2. g3 Nf6 3. Bg2 g6 4. Nf3 Bg7 5. c4 O-O 6. O-O d6 7. Nc3 e6 8. Qc2 Nc6 9. Rd1 Qe7 10. a3 a5 11. Be3 Nd8 12. Ra2 b6 13. Ng5 Bb7 14. Bxb7 Nxb7 15. h3 a4 16. Nxa4 Nh5 17. h4 f4 18. gxf4 Nxf4 19. Nc3 Bh6
Parent - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2010-12-02 23:06
it is very difficult for white to defend this,i just cannot understand moves like 11.Ra2 just shows that if the program is not strong enough it does not matter how much hardwae you back it up with.
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2010-12-02 23:08
1. d4 f5 2. g3 Nf6 3. Bg2 g6 4. Nf3 Bg7 5. c4 O-O 6. O-O d6 7. Nc3 e6 8. Qc2 Nc6 9. Rd1 Qe7 10. a3 a5 11. Be3 Nd8 12. Ra2 b6 13. Ng5 Bb7 14. Bxb7 Nxb7 15. h3 a4 16. Nxa4 Nh5 17. h4 f4 18. gxf4 Nxf4 19. Nc3 Bh6 20.Nf3

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Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2010-12-02 23:12
20...Na5
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2010-12-02 23:27
1. d4 f5 2. g3 Nf6 3. Bg2 g6 4. Nf3 Bg7 5. c4 O-O 6. O-O d6 7. Nc3 e6 8. Qc2 Nc6 9. Rd1 Qe7 10. a3 a5 11. Be3 Nd8 12. Ra2 b6 13. Ng5 Bb7 14. Bxb7 Nxb7 15. h3 a4 16. Nxa4 Nh5 17. h4 f4 18. gxf4 Nxf4 19. Nc3 Bh6 20.Nf3 Na5 21.b3

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Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2010-12-02 23:28
21...Qd7
Parent - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2010-12-02 23:29
best move.
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2010-12-02 23:32
1. d4 f5 2. g3 Nf6 3. Bg2 g6 4. Nf3 Bg7 5. c4 O-O 6. O-O d6 7. Nc3 e6 8. Qc2 Nc6 9. Rd1 Qe7 10. a3 a5 11. Be3 Nd8 12. Ra2 b6 13. Ng5 Bb7 14. Bxb7 Nxb7 15. h3 a4 16. Nxa4 Nh5 17. h4 f4 18. gxf4 Nxf4 19. Nc3 Bh6 20.Nf3 Na5 21.b3 Qd7 22.Ne4

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Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2010-12-02 23:33
22...e5
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2010-12-02 23:36
now this i was not expecting i thought 22...Nc6 would be played.time will tell.:smile:
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2010-12-03 00:38
anyone apart from me think i can get a draw,maybe i am being optimistic.
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2010-12-03 00:59
I think you can get a draw, I rushed into this position because evaluations kept raising, but now they've stabilized, just a bit better than with 22...Nc6.

It has been very exciting, it's the first time that I'm been actively pondering (thinking when it's your turn to move) :smile:, perhaps I can do it effectively in the WBCCC.
Parent - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2010-12-03 01:13
i just thought it was better to preface e5 with Nc6.
Parent - By TheHug (Bronze) [us] Date 2010-12-03 09:08
This is probably a little easier to draw than the Crawley Game 2, but Vytron maybe able to surprise you :smile:
Parent - - By Dadi Jonsson (Silver) [is] Date 2010-12-03 10:12
The probability of a draw has been increasing and after 22...e5 anything but a draw would be a surprise.
Parent - - By TheHug (Bronze) [us] Date 2010-12-03 10:21
I guess you follow these higher level games more than I thought :smile:.
Parent - - By Dadi Jonsson (Silver) [is] Date 2010-12-03 10:24
I had already started analyzing this variation before the current game started.
Parent - - By TheHug (Bronze) [us] Date 2010-12-03 10:32
Do you have improvements for white before move 15? For surely there is a better move than 12.Ra2? That looks very bad.
Parent - By Dadi Jonsson (Silver) [is] Date 2010-12-03 10:37
Of course 12.Ra2 is a terrible move, but I started my analysis after White's 15th move.
Parent - By TheHug (Bronze) [us] Date 2010-12-03 10:37
11.Be3 doesn't look that great either. That is possible were one can start to make improvements for white. Statistically Black is good here, but I have b3 and Rb1, not sure what is the best move
Parent - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2010-12-03 17:25
Hey, maybe after this game is over we have another Nightmare challenge where I am defending the white side from after 22...Nc6 against you :smile:
Parent - By Dadi Jonsson (Silver) [is] Date 2010-12-03 13:22
After having a closer look, I would still prefer Black here.
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2010-12-03 00:19
1. d4 f5 2. g3 Nf6 3. Bg2 g6 4. Nf3 Bg7 5. c4 O-O 6. O-O d6 7. Nc3 e6 8. Qc2 Nc6 9. Rd1 Qe7 10. a3 a5 11. Be3 Nd8 12. Ra2 b6 13. Ng5 Bb7 14. Bxb7 Nxb7 15. h3 a4 16. Nxa4 Nh5 17. h4 f4 18. gxf4 Nxf4 19. Nc3 Bh6 20.Nf3 Na5 21.b3 Qd7 22.Ne4 e5 23.dxe5

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Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2010-12-03 01:17
1. d4 f5 2. g3 Nf6 3. Bg2 g6 4. Nf3 Bg7 5. c4 O-O 6. O-O d6 7. Nc3 e6 8. Qc2 Nc6 9. Rd1 Qe7 10. a3 a5 11. Be3 Nd8 12. Ra2 b6 13. Ng5 Bb7 14. Bxb7 Nxb7 15. h3 a4 16. Nxa4 Nh5 17. h4 f4 18. gxf4 Nxf4 19. Nc3 Bh6 20. Nf3 Na5 21. b3 Qd7 22. Ne4 e5 23. dxe5 Qg4+

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Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2010-12-03 01:21
1. d4 f5 2. g3 Nf6 3. Bg2 g6 4. Nf3 Bg7 5. c4 O-O 6. O-O d6 7. Nc3 e6 8. Qc2 Nc6 9. Rd1 Qe7 10. a3 a5 11. Be3 Nd8 12. Ra2 b6 13. Ng5 Bb7 14. Bxb7 Nxb7 15. h3 a4 16. Nxa4 Nh5 17. h4 f4 18. gxf4 Nxf4 19. Nc3 Bh6 20. Nf3 Na5 21. b3 Qd7 22. Ne4 e5 23. dxe5 Qg4+ 24.Ng3

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Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2010-12-03 01:23
now your Knight on a5 looks a bit silly.:smile:
Parent - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2010-12-03 01:57
And I think it'll be at a5 for a very long while! :yell:
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2010-12-03 04:23
1. d4 f5 2. g3 Nf6 3. Bg2 g6 4. Nf3 Bg7 5. c4 O-O 6. O-O d6 7. Nc3 e6 8. Qc2 Nc6 9. Rd1 Qe7 10. a3 a5 11. Be3 Nd8 12. Ra2 b6 13. Ng5 Bb7 14. Bxb7 Nxb7 15. h3 a4 16. Nxa4 Nh5 17. h4 f4 18. gxf4 Nxf4 19. Nc3 Bh6 20. Nf3 Na5 21. b3 Qd7 22. Ne4 e5 23. dxe5 Qg4+ 24. Ng3 Rae8

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Parent - By TheHug (Bronze) [us] Date 2010-12-03 04:31
Wow lots of moves today. You guys both must have been looking at this.
Parent - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2010-12-02 23:29
my AN really started here,although i tried to find alternatives to 21.b3
- - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2010-12-03 08:58
1. d4 f5 2. g3 Nf6 3. Bg2 g6 4. Nf3 Bg7 5. c4 O-O 6. O-O d6 7. Nc3 e6 8. Qc2 Nc6 9. Rd1 Qe7 10. a3 a5 11. Be3 Nd8 12. Ra2 b6 13. Ng5 Bb7 14. Bxb7 Nxb7 15. h3 a4 16. Nxa4 Nh5 17. h4 f4 18. gxf4 Nxf4 19. Nc3 Bh6 20. Nf3 Na5 21. b3 Qd7 22. Ne4 e5 23. dxe5 Qg4+ 24. Ng3 Rae8 25.Bxf4

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Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2010-12-03 17:30
1. d4 f5 2. g3 Nf6 3. Bg2 g6 4. Nf3 Bg7 5. c4 O-O 6. O-O d6 7. Nc3 e6 8. Qc2 Nc6 9. Rd1 Qe7 10. a3 a5 11. Be3 Nd8 12. Ra2 b6 13. Ng5 Bb7 14. Bxb7 Nxb7 15. h3 a4 16. Nxa4 Nh5 17. h4 f4 18. gxf4 Nxf4 19. Nc3 Bh6 20. Nf3 Na5 21. b3 Qd7 22. Ne4 e5 23. dxe5 Qg4+ 24. Ng3 Rae8 25. Bxf4 Bxf4
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2010-12-03 19:06
1. d4 f5 2. g3 Nf6 3. Bg2 g6 4. Nf3 Bg7 5. c4 O-O 6. O-O d6 7. Nc3 e6 8. Qc2 Nc6 9. Rd1 Qe7 10. a3 a5 11. Be3 Nd8 12. Ra2 b6 13. Ng5 Bb7 14. Bxb7 Nxb7 15. h3 a4 16. Nxa4 Nh5 17. h4 f4 18. gxf4 Nxf4 19. Nc3 Bh6 20. Nf3 Na5 21. b3 Qd7 22. Ne4 e5 23. dxe5 Qg4+ 24. Ng3 Rae8 25. Bxf4 Bxf4 26.Kg2

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Parent - By TheHug (Bronze) [us] Date 2010-12-03 19:12
It looks like the rook that was on this lonely island on a2. Is finally going to play a part in this and It didn't have move :lol:
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2010-12-03 21:09
1. d4 f5 2. g3 Nf6 3. Bg2 g6 4. Nf3 Bg7 5. c4 O-O 6. O-O d6 7. Nc3 e6 8. Qc2 Nc6 9. Rd1 Qe7 10. a3 a5 11. Be3 Nd8 12. Ra2 b6 13. Ng5 Bb7 14. Bxb7 Nxb7 15. h3 a4 16. Nxa4 Nh5 17. h4 f4 18. gxf4 Nxf4 19. Nc3 Bh6 20. Nf3 Na5 21. b3 Qd7 22. Ne4 e5 23. dxe5 Qg4+ 24. Ng3 Rae8 25. Bxf4 Bxf4 26. Kg2 dxe5

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Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2010-12-03 21:41
1. d4 f5 2. g3 Nf6 3. Bg2 g6 4. Nf3 Bg7 5. c4 O-O 6. O-O d6 7. Nc3 e6 8. Qc2 Nc6 9. Rd1 Qe7 10. a3 a5 11. Be3 Nd8 12. Ra2 b6 13. Ng5 Bb7 14. Bxb7 Nxb7 15. h3 a4 16. Nxa4 Nh5 17. h4 f4 18. gxf4 Nxf4 19. Nc3 Bh6 20. Nf3 Na5 21. b3 Qd7 22. Ne4 e5 23. dxe5 Qg4+ 24. Ng3 Rae8 25. Bxf4 Bxf4 26. Kg2 dxe5 27.Nh2

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Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2010-12-04 09:25
1. d4 f5 2. g3 Nf6 3. Bg2 g6 4. Nf3 Bg7 5. c4 O-O 6. O-O d6 7. Nc3 e6 8. Qc2 Nc6 9. Rd1 Qe7 10. a3 a5 11. Be3 Nd8 12. Ra2 b6 13. Ng5 Bb7 14. Bxb7 Nxb7 15. h3 a4 16. Nxa4 Nh5 17. h4 f4 18. gxf4 Nxf4 19. Nc3 Bh6 20. Nf3 Na5 21. b3 Qd7 22. Ne4 e5 23. dxe5 Qg4+ 24. Ng3 Rae8 25. Bxf4 Bxf4 26. Kg2 dxe5 27. Nh2 Qxh4

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