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Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2010-09-29 09:25
1. e4 e5 2. f4 exf4 3. Nf3 g5 4. Bc4 g4 5. O-O gxf3 6. Qxf3 Qf6 7. e5 Qxe5 8. Bxf7+ Kxf7 9. d4 Qf5 10. Bxf4 Nf6 11. Be5 Qxf3 12. Rxf3 Bg7 13. Nc3 d6 14. Bxf6 Bxf6 15. Raf1 Nd7 16. Nd5 Re8 17. Nxc7 Rb8 18. Nxe8 Kxe8 19. Rxf6 Nxf6
Parent - - By Master Om (*****) [in] Date 2010-09-29 09:30
1rb1k3/pp5p/3p1R2/8/3P4/8/PPP3PP/6K1 b - -

20.Rf6
Parent - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2010-09-29 23:48
I moved below.
Parent - - By Master Om (*****) [in] Date 2010-09-19 04:08

>You can't do that with the Fritz GUI, if you use the Aquarium GUI, try asking on the support subforum on how to use Exclude moves, or "searchmoves".


Fritz GUI contains next best "Y"
Parent - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2010-09-19 06:22
EDIT - Oh yeah, I forgot about that, at least it would work by some extent, but sometime you need to exclude specific moves the engine is not showing, so "Next Best" loses time.
- - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2010-09-29 23:47
1. e4 e5 2. f4 exf4 3. Nf3 g5 4. Bc4 g4 5. O-O gxf3 6. Qxf3 Qf6 7. e5 Qxe5 8. Bxf7+ Kxf7 9. d4 Qf5 10. Bxf4 Nf6 11. Be5 Qxf3 12. Rxf3 Bg7 13. Nc3 d6 14. Bxf6 Bxf6 15. Raf1 Nd7 16. Nd5 Re8 17. Nxc7 Rb8 18. Nxe8 Kxe8 19. Rxf6 Nxf6 20. Rxf6 Ke7

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Parent - - By Master Om (*****) [in] Date 2010-10-08 09:37
1rb5/pp2k2p/3p4/8/3P4/5R2/PPP3PP/6K1 b - -

21.Rf3
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2010-10-09 20:39
1. e4 e5 2. f4 exf4 3. Nf3 g5 4. Bc4 g4 5. O-O gxf3 6. Qxf3 Qf6 7. e5 Qxe5 8. Bxf7+ Kxf7 9. d4 Qf5 10. Bxf4 Nf6 11. Be5 Qxf3 12. Rxf3 Bg7 13. Nc3 d6 14. Bxf6 Bxf6 15. Raf1 Nd7 16. Nd5 Re8 17. Nxc7 Rb8 18. Nxe8 Kxe8 19. Rxf6 Nxf6 20. Rxf6 Ke7 21. Rf3 Be6
Parent - - By Master Om (*****) [in] Date 2010-10-12 16:32
22.a3
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2010-10-13 10:44
Alright, I think I have a plan that forces a win from this position, so once again I'll look silly and say it:

Black to move and mate in 56 moves or less

1. e4 e5 2. f4 exf4 3. Nf3 g5 4. Bc4 g4 5. O-O gxf3 6. Qxf3 Qf6 7. e5 Qxe5 8. Bxf7+ Kxf7 9. d4 Qf5 10. Bxf4 Nf6 11. Be5 Qxf3 12. Rxf3 Bg7 13. Nc3 d6 14. Bxf6 Bxf6 15. Raf1 Nd7 16. Nd5 Re8 17. Nxc7 Rb8 18. Nxe8 Kxe8 19. Rxf6 Nxf6 20. Rxf6 Ke7 21. Rf3 Be6 22. a3 b5

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#56
Parent - By Master Om (*****) [in] Date 2010-10-13 16:12
I will check it.Its bold claim.
Parent - - By Master Om (*****) [in] Date 2010-10-15 11:27
I think if i had played 21.Rf1 then i would have hold it. Will you take back if you dont mind ?
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2010-10-15 14:54
Sure, with the condition that it's your last take back :wink:

So the game stands:

1. e4 e5 2. f4 exf4 3. Nf3 g5 4. Bc4 g4 5. O-O gxf3 6. Qxf3 Qf6 7. e5 Qxe5
8. Bxf7+ Kxf7 9. d4 Qf5 10. Bxf4 Nf6 11. Be5 Qxf3 12. Rxf3 Bg7 13. Nc3 d6
14. Bxf6 Bxf6 15. Raf1 Nd7 16. Nd5 Re8 17. Nxc7 Rb8 18. Nxe8 Kxe8 19. Rxf6
Nxf6 20. Rxf6 Ke7 21. Rf1

1rb5/pp2k2p/3p4/8/3P4/8/PPP3PP/5RK1 b - -


My turn again.
Parent - - By Master Om (*****) [in] Date 2010-10-16 02:10
Aha!! Thanks. Your reply is forced somewhat. As Be6 the best move here. So my move again.!!!!
Parent - - By BigBen (****) Date 2010-10-16 08:12
Hi,
    The first new move for me was blacks 17...Rb8 I suspect it was the same for you guys
   
Becker,Axel - Stock,Thomas [C37]
ICCF email ICCF email (1), 1998

1.e4 e5 2.f4 exf4 3.Nf3 g5 4.Bc4 g4 5.0-0 gxf3 6.Qxf3 Qf6 7.e5 Qxe5 8.Bxf7+ Kxf7 9.d4 Qf5 10.Bxf4 Nf6 11.Be5 Qxf3 12.Rxf3 Bg7 13.Nc3 d6 14.Bxf6 Bxf6 15.Raf1 Nd7 16.Nd5 Re8 17.Nxc7 b6 18.Nxe8 Kxe8 19.Rxf6 Nxf6 20.Rxf6 Ke7 21.Rf4 Be6 22.Rh4 Bf5 23.c3 Re8 24.Kf2 a6 25.g4 Bb1 26.Rh6 Rf8+ 27.Ke3 Rf6 28.Rxf6 Kxf6 29.Kf4 Ke6 30.Kg5 Bxa2 0-1

Regards
Parent - By Master Om (*****) [in] Date 2010-10-16 12:30
Thomas stock is an current exponent of Double muzio. 17...Rb8 is the only good move here AFAIK.
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2010-10-16 23:17
Making it official:

1. e4 e5 2. f4 exf4 3. Nf3 g5 4. Bc4 g4 5. O-O gxf3 6. Qxf3 Qf6 7. e5 Qxe5 8. Bxf7+ Kxf7 9. d4 Qf5 10. Bxf4 Nf6 11. Be5 Qxf3 12. Rxf3 Bg7 13. Nc3 d6 14. Bxf6 Bxf6 15. Raf1 Nd7 16. Nd5 Re8 17. Nxc7 Rb8 18. Nxe8 Kxe8 19. Rxf6 Nxf6 20. Rxf6 Ke7 21. Rf1 Be6

1r6/pp2k2p/3pb3/8/3P4/8/PPP3PP/5RK1 w - -


Some fun facts:

I didn't use a book or database at all, all moves were found at the board. I didn't look at 17...b6 at all, I just didn't find a defense against 17...Rb8 and went with it for that reason.
Parent - - By Master Om (*****) [in] Date 2010-10-20 04:13
1r6/pp2k2p/3pb3/8/3P4/8/PPP3PP/4R1K1 b - -

22.Re1
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2010-10-21 01:43
Um, it actually transposes back to previous analysis, so I'll go at it again:

Black to move and mate in 56 moves or less

1. e4 e5 2. f4 exf4 3. Nf3 g5 4. Bc4 g4 5. O-O gxf3 6. Qxf3 Qf6 7. e5 Qxe5 8. Bxf7+ Kxf7 9. d4 Qf5 10. Bxf4 Nf6 11. Be5 Qxf3 12. Rxf3 Bg7 13. Nc3 d6 14. Bxf6 Bxf6 15. Raf1 Nd7 16. Nd5 Re8 17. Nxc7 Rb8 18. Nxe8 Kxe8 19. Rxf6 Nxf6 20. Rxf6 Ke7 21. Rf1 Be6 22. Re1 Kd7

1r6/pp1k3p/3pb3/8/3P4/8/PPP3PP/4R1K1 w - -


#56
Parent - - By Master Om (*****) [in] Date 2010-10-22 04:46
1r6/pp1k3p/3pb3/8/3P4/P7/1PP3PP/4R1K1 b - -

23.a3
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2010-10-22 21:59
1. e4 e5 2. f4 exf4 3. Nf3 g5 4. Bc4 g4 5. O-O gxf3 6. Qxf3 Qf6 7. e5 Qxe5 8. Bxf7+ Kxf7 9. d4 Qf5 10. Bxf4 Nf6 11. Be5 Qxf3 12. Rxf3 Bg7 13. Nc3 d6 14. Bxf6 Bxf6 15. Raf1 Nd7 16. Nd5 Re8 17. Nxc7 Rb8 18. Nxe8 Kxe8 19. Rxf6 Nxf6 20. Rxf6 Ke7 21. Rf1 Be6 22. Re1 Kd7 23. a3 b5

1r6/p2k3p/3pb3/1p6/3P4/P7/1PP3PP/4R1K1 w - -


#55
Parent - - By Master Om (*****) [in] Date 2010-10-24 11:01
1r6/p2k3p/3pb3/1p6/3P4/P1P5/1P4PP/4R1K1 b - -

24.c3
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2010-10-26 02:38
1. e4 e5 2. f4 exf4 3. Nf3 g5 4. Bc4 g4 5. O-O gxf3 6. Qxf3 Qf6 7. e5 Qxe5 8. Bxf7+ Kxf7 9. d4 Qf5 10. Bxf4 Nf6 11. Be5 Qxf3 12. Rxf3 Bg7 13. Nc3 d6 14. Bxf6 Bxf6 15. Raf1 Nd7 16. Nd5 Re8 17. Nxc7 Rb8 18. Nxe8 Kxe8 19. Rxf6 Nxf6 20. Rxf6 Ke7 21. Rf1 Be6 22. Re1 Kd7 23. a3 b5 24. c3 h5

1r6/p2k4/3pb3/1p5p/3P4/P1P5/1P4PP/4R1K1 w - -


#54
Parent - - By Master Om (*****) [in] Date 2010-11-04 15:53
1r6/p2k4/3pb3/1p5p/3PR3/P1P5/1P4PP/6K1 b - -

25.Re4
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2010-11-04 22:38
1. e4 e5 2. f4 exf4 3. Nf3 g5 4. Bc4 g4 5. O-O gxf3 6. Qxf3 Qf6 7. e5 Qxe5 8. Bxf7+ Kxf7 9. d4 Qf5 10. Bxf4 Nf6 11. Be5 Qxf3 12. Rxf3 Bg7 13. Nc3 d6 14. Bxf6 Bxf6 15. Raf1 Nd7 16. Nd5 Re8 17. Nxc7 Rb8 18. Nxe8 Kxe8 19. Rxf6 Nxf6 20. Rxf6 Ke7 21. Rf1 Be6 22. Re1 Kd7 23. a3 b5 24. c3 h5 25. Re4 Bc4

1r6/p2k4/3p4/1p5p/2bPR3/P1P5/1P4PP/6K1 w - -


#53
Parent - - By Master Om (*****) [in] Date 2010-11-18 01:14
26.Kf2
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2010-11-18 06:57
1. e4 e5 2. f4 exf4 3. Nf3 g5 4. Bc4 g4 5. O-O gxf3 6. Qxf3 Qf6 7. e5 Qxe5 8. Bxf7+ Kxf7 9. d4 Qf5 10. Bxf4 Nf6 11. Be5 Qxf3 12. Rxf3 Bg7 13. Nc3 d6 14. Bxf6 Bxf6 15. Raf1 Nd7 16. Nd5 Re8 17. Nxc7 Rb8 18. Nxe8 Kxe8 19. Rxf6 Nxf6 20. Rxf6 Ke7 21. Rf1 Be6 22. Re1 Kd7 23. a3 b5 24. c3 h5 25. Re4 Bc4 26. Kf2 a5

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#52
Parent - - By Master Om (*****) [in] Date 2010-12-07 15:30
1r6/3k4/3p4/pp5p/2bP4/P1P1R3/1P3KPP/8 b - - 0 27

27.Re3
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2010-12-08 00:22
1. e4 e5 2. f4 exf4 3. Nf3 g5 4. Bc4 g4 5. O-O gxf3 6. Qxf3 Qf6 7. e5 Qxe5 8. Bxf7+ Kxf7 9. d4 Qf5 10. Bxf4 Nf6 11. Be5 Qxf3 12. Rxf3 Bg7 13. Nc3 d6 14. Bxf6 Bxf6 15. Raf1 Nd7 16. Nd5 Re8 17. Nxc7 Rb8 18. Nxe8 Kxe8 19. Rxf6 Nxf6 20. Rxf6 Ke7 21. Rf1 Be6 22. Re1 Kd7 23. a3 b5 24. c3 h5 25. Re4 Bc4 26. Kf2 a5 27. Re3 Rf8+

5r2/3k4/3p4/pp5p/2bP4/P1P1R3/1P3KPP/8 w - -


#48
Parent - - By Master Om (*****) [in] Date 2010-12-08 09:18
After Rf3 the postion is a hopeless endgame THAT MEANS 0-1
I resign.
Will you another Muzio with me ?
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2010-12-08 10:47
Thanks for the game, it's the most impressive opening I've played yet :smile: (the first time I got mad because I thought you were giving up the game like that, in fact, only later on I figured you didn't).

*Handshake.*

[Event "Muzio Gambit (AN) 6...Qf6"]
[Site "Rybka Forum"]
[Date "2010.05.23"]
[Round "4"]
[White "omprakash"]
[Black "Vytron"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "C37"]
[Opening "KGA"]
[Variation "Double Muzio Gambit"]

1. e4 e5 2. f4 exf4 3. Nf3 g5 4. Bc4 g4 5. O-O gxf3 6. Qxf3 Qf6 7. e5 Qxe5
8. Bxf7+ Kxf7 9. d4 Qf5 10. Bxf4 Nf6 11. Be5 Qxf3 12. Rxf3 Bg7 13. Nc3 d6
14. Bxf6 Bxf6 15. Raf1 Nd7 16. Nd5 Re8 17. Nxc7 Rb8 18. Nxe8 Kxe8 19. Rxf6
Nxf6 20. Rxf6 Ke7 21. Rf1 Be6 22. Re1 Kd7 23. a3 b5 24. c3 h5 25. Re4 Bc4
26. Kf2 a5 27. Re3 Rf8+ {Black resigns.2010.12.08} 0-1

> Will you another Muzio with me ?


Sure, but perhaps later on, I'm currently trying to free my game spots for the WBCCC (unsuccessfully when I can't resist starting new games :lol:), I also have a pending game against tomski, I'll see how I manage on the WBCCC before deciding if I start these promised matches soon.
Parent - By TheHug (Bronze) [us] Date 2010-12-08 14:03
You maybe oh ok in the first 2 rounds, but if you do well and it comes likely you may score in the top ten. Then you may want to consider less games for sure.
Parent - - By Master Om (*****) [in] Date 2010-12-09 02:48
I played Bxf7 for fun and learning as I know in correspondence this looses but it still needs to be proved as i am sure I missed something somewhere. I will be waiting to play this Double muzio again with using Idea this time as IA is hopeless here. In this game I have seldom used any engine to play as I feel none understands  the compensation. Well untill then I will be analysing. Tell me when we start. I was too busy within this game.
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2010-12-09 09:06

> I will be waiting to play this Double muzio again with using Idea this time as IA is hopeless here.


Well, I used IA to win it :wink: - I also relied exclusively on engines, as I didn't know what was going on most of the time (at the human level).

Yes, I'll tell you when I'm ready, I'll try to have max 4 games running at a time, currently I have 5 games running and I'll have to start 2 more games for the WBCCC :red:
Parent - By Master Om (*****) [in] Date 2010-12-09 12:55
Waitin.
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