I readed-carefully-the thread "Rybka-the future ? ".The ways to develop a chess engine-seems to me-are only two:
1.to develop the code source itself;
2.to use a lot of CPUs.
If the engine is destined only for matches & tournaments (eng.vs eng or eng.vs.humans IGM) the both ways are suitable.If the engine is commercial only the way 1. is suitable otherwise Vas (& others) will be bankrupt.Like in west FEW men are interested to invest in hardware & computer chess software on many CPUs.
Take a look around-Ubi Soft(Chessmaster) and ChessBase(Fritz) sell millions of copies because they are destined for mass ( west/east/south/north) . Hardware & soft for 16.....x cores are only a curiosity for people and the subject of possession for some (very few) eccentrics ( rich-of course).
I think-in future-will be a commercial version on 1-8 cores and a tournament version on x cores.Seems to be resonably ! Nothing political (& don't forget -Vas live in Eastern Europe and belongs to this region by origins).
> Take a look around-Ubi Soft(Chessmaster) and ChessBase(Fritz) sell millions of copies because they are destined for mass ( west/east/south/north) . Hardware & soft for 16.....x cores are only a curiosity for people and the subject of possession for some (very few) eccentrics ( rich-of course).
On the other side Deep Fritz was created in times, where no Dual Core Processors existed.
Only a view 'eccentrics ( rich-of course)' People owned a real Chess-Machine with 2 single Processors.
It's not correct, that Chessbase only wants to destiny for mass.
(OkOk, in those Times they wanted to be WordChampion, probably because this would push the sales (to the mass))
I think that to do that properly it is neccessary to have good stable operating system or write it by his own and take over computer management from Windows.
It is heavy way because with every new version , every Service Pack you will get functionality with the differrent behaviour and possibly new bugs :-(.
PS.Thereis the joke, the 2 IT people are speaking.
- I have bought new version of Windows.
- Interesting and...?
- I have a problem.
- That you have already told me before. :-)
As for 16 and 32-core systems, both are affordable by the affluent, but they seem an extraordinarily poor buy on a cost-benefit analysis basis if the goal is to win Freestyle tournaments, especially now, with the commercial version of Rybka not scaling up as it might. Also a short-sighted buy, as Intel and others are developing computers with a tremendous number of cores that will render today's 16-cores largely obsolete in 3-5 years. (Honestly it is hard for me to visualize what an ordinary person would want 80 cores for, other than to play Freestyle chess or participate in SETI or something of that sort.)
While it is undeniable that good hardware is essential for any serious Freestyle participant, there are many people who have entered the tournament with terrific hardware who have not won. The key, and what separates the top contenders from the rest of the field, is how efficiently and intelligently they use the assets they have.
The process is also surprisingly labor-intensive. That's really what separates the rich from the poor; the enormous amount of time (years, really) spent developing a championship-caliber chess entity could be otherwise used making a lot of money in some other field. Computer chess is an expensive (but not unaffordable) hobby in terms of expenses incurred, but it is really ruinous when you factor in opportunity costs.
"Hey honey, what do you say we...shack up?"
"Oh yeah? What are the specs on your computer?"
"I have a 32-core Vapo system running at 4.2 GHz, an 8 terabyte hard drive, and 64 gigs of sweet Corsair memory."
(shivering with pleasure) "Oooo. I get off at eleven and I'll meet you outside."
In my Data Mining laboratory at the university where I teach, our rather obsolete machines may run a week for single (heavy, I agree) tasks. It penalizes students, that can't have fast responses on the performance of their algorithms, and the correctness of some of their hypotheses. For some professional tasks, such as this one, it would be great (provided we can afford it :).
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