If the Rybka team would have played 2.3.2a they would have won the match
Zappa is the now considered the computer wourld champion
the zappa version played to beat Rybka is the same version sold at shredderchess.com
If you buy the Zappa engine does it come with shredder interface or are they sold seperatly ?
1. It is generally believed that Rybka, at least the latest private version, is a bit better than Zappa even at 8-core. (You seem to imply that if an engine is better in single-core but scales worse it's still the better engine -- I don't agree with that.)
2. Is is unlikely that 2.3.2a would have fared better. In fact, there was a marked improvement in Rybka's results in the last four games, where the very latest version was used. (Little statistical evidence, though.)
3. This was not a world championship match, so no.
4. Yes, Zappa Mexico is what was used.
5. Zappa Mexico is an UCI engine, sold without interface.
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The program Shredder or Deep Shredder is sold separately.
2. No. Rybka 2.3.2a was used in game 1. All other versions were better.
3. No. WCCC in Amsterdam was won by Rybka.
4. I don't know, but i think so. Sadly they don't deliver Erdo's book, too.
5. You only get the UCI engines, 32 + 64 bit and 2 Linux versions. Nothing else.
> 4. I don't know, but i think so. Sadly they don't deliver Erdo's book, too.
This is a very important point, since Zappa can only reach that strength with a book that avoids lines that Zappa plays badly and runs into lines that Zappa plays very good, many will be disappointed with their Zappa, even if they have 8 cores, if they don't have a book such as Erdo's.
It would be horrible if the only purpose of a chess engine would be to go elo hunting in Playchess' engine room with the book the engine likes best, and with the hardware the engine likes best, and with the time control the engine likes best...?! I expect that an engine supports what I like to do, not that I have to support what the engine likes! :-D
> the book the engine likes best, and with the hardware the engine likes best, and with the time control the engine likes best...?!
Zappa is the perfect example of this, the engine gets greatly damaged by bad book, bad hardware and fast time control. However, the strength difference at that ELO level is unnoticeable unless you are that strong; for the average chess player, a free engine like ProDeo will be enough for analysis...
I refer specifically to: if Timothy Leary was still alive,he could probably help you(and me);and.....but it's not that hard to roll your own.
It seems to me that you might possibly have lately been suffering from a certain disconnect and may need some direction.
To that end, I would suggest that you entreat Nelson to part with some of his renowned blunts(errr,cigars!).
I know this is not the proper venue for this but I can't be held to ordinary standards since,like Robert(Sid Serious),I'm quite insane.
Alan has been a bit crotchety lately but like me he's middle-aged and doesn't suffer fools gladly. Not only that, but his wife has foolishly vetoed his plan to open a chess-themed Las Vegas strip club, which with him at the helm would be wildly profitable. Imagine it, 64 squares on the main dance area covered with gyrating women. Give him a break.
How about a printout from the CNN web site? They're supporting and showing MoveOn.org adds during their commercial segments now, you know; that's of a similar level and nature to some hypothetical scenario of FoxNews showing Ku Klux Klan adds...
Second, Nelson is in denial. Both of us are really too old to be calling ourselves middle aged.
Third, I never thought of it, but a chess themed club would probably work. I've seen backgammon themed clubs that worked really well with the girls trying to make extra money by challenging patrons to games (and I've never seen dancers so interested in learning statistics). Might even make it a little easier to get a license: "but really, its primarily a chess club!".
Of course the chess-themed club would work; it would become an international chess shrine. I can very easily imagine the entire reptilian ruling body of FIDE in there.
You're going to get lip or tongue cancer from smoking that crap!
It's sidserious (one word)- But, to the point-neither you, Alan, nor, Nelson, can afford the luxury of pleading a case of insanity. You folks are much too important to be treat lightly.
You know! He was my chess Guru! Until he told me to memorize a crap load of moves in my head- it was then that I began to lose touch with reality. I don't know if you remember, but last year he said, " I'll be your chess coach!" From that point on I started slipping out of touch with myself and my dog, Liza Minnelli. Oh! Yes, I even copied his instructions to me that was supposed to increase my chess skills. I have to leave my self notes now, " did you feed little Liza? Is she in the house? If not how long has she been gone now? Was it be3 or e5?
Good to hear from you! :-) Little liza is well and doing very fine.
1st Annual Rybka Forum Postings Humor Award, Pairs Category, might be in jeopardy. I hope I'm not being indiscreet in revealing that Nelson is a lock to grab the 1st Annual Rybka Forum Postings Humor Award, Solo Category,because of the
sheer volume of his humorous postings.
There is room for only one paranoid person here! That's me!
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