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- - By Jewel [us] Date 2010-07-12 20:02
I play boyfriend on occasion and want to become better player.

Not being computer wiz, I have hard time understanding numeric values adjacent move suggestions with Kibitzer on.

For example I see:

2.01 (depth 12) 1. nc6 etc...

What is numeric value 2.01, and what is depth 12 indicate please.

Also, I see at bottom, 7 book moves. How can I use these to determine stong reply?

Any help would be appreciated.

Thank you.

Jewel
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2010-07-13 00:33

> What is numeric value 2.01


In general, a 1.00 value means "a pawn up", so 2.00 would mean "2 pawns up", the .01 would stand as "2 pawns and 1 centipawn better". These terms may not be taken literally, as in, dynamical factors are taken into account, if you don't see a pawn advantage anywhere, a 1.00 score would mean "the dynamical factors of the position are worth a pawn advantage".

Rybka actually doesn't do this, her score shown is expected outcome. A 0.00 score means "50% expected performance", like, after playing this game it is expected to be drawn, or if it's won by white, the next time on the same position black is expected to win, etc.

The higher the score, the higher the expected outcome (eventually reaching 100%, meaning "the side playing this move is expected to win all the time", though due to mis-evaluations such high scores could be shown for drawn games...)

> what is depth 12 indicate please.


It means how many halfmoves has the engine searched (a move is 1.e4 e5, a half move is just e4). In reality, engines tend to reduce some lines and extend others, so this concept becomes blurry. Engines like Rybka obfuscate this number, so that some times she actually searched 4 half moves more than she shows, and engines like Stockfish just increase this number every iteration, regardless of halfmoves analyzed.

Basically you can ignore the value of this number, what only matters is that a move shown at depth 15 has some 16.7% chance more of being the best move than a move shown at depth 14 (simply put, the higher this number, the better the expected move).

> Also, I see at bottom, 7 book moves. How can I use these to determine stong reply?


You can't, that's the PV, it's the line that the engine looked and deemed best, from where the score you see comes from (the 2.01 you see comes from the end of the variation).
Parent - By Jewel [us] Date 2010-07-13 15:04
Thank you so much.  And I now see from your explaination that if I use Tarrasch to set up my situtaion with kibitzing turned on and receive negative values my situation is not so good.  My boyfriend is such a pig! Perhaps though, he make mistakes... One can only hope.  I want to kick his ass.

Thank you again.
- - By Moz (****) Date 2010-07-13 22:37
I think we just witnessed the birth of an online chess cheater! :wink:
Parent - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2010-07-14 02:00
Huh, my intention wasn't to help with that...
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