![[ca]](/mwf/v12/flags/ca.png "Canada")
1. c4 e5 2. Nc3 Nf6 3. Nf3 Nc6 4. g3 Bb4 5. Bg2 O-O 6. O-O e4 7. Ng5 Bxc3 8. bxc3 Re8 9. f3 exf3 10. Nxf3 Qe7 11. e3 d6 12. d3 Ne5 13. Nh4 Rb8 14. e4 Bg4 15. Qc2 Qe6 16. Bg5 Nfd7 17. Nf5 f6 18. Bc1 Kh8 19. a4 a5 20. Rb1
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![[mx]](/mwf/v12/flags/mx.png "Mexico")
1. c4 e5 2. Nc3 Nf6 3. Nf3 Nc6 4. g3 Bb4 5. Bg2 O-O 6. O-O e4 7. Ng5 Bxc3 8. bxc3 Re8 9. f3 exf3 10. Nxf3 Qe7 11. e3 d6 12. d3 Ne5 13. Nh4 Rb8 14. e4 Bg4 15. Qc2 Qe6 16. Bg5 Nfd7 17. Nf5 f6 18. Bc1 Kh8 19. a4 a5 20. Rb1 Qf7
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1. c4 e5 2. Nc3 Nf6 3. Nf3 Nc6 4. g3 Bb4 5. Bg2 O-O 6. O-O e4 7. Ng5 Bxc3 8. bxc3 Re8 9. f3 exf3 10. Nxf3 Qe7 11. e3 d6 12. d3 Ne5 13. Nh4 Rb8 14. e4 Bg4 15. Qc2 Qe6 16. Bg5 Nfd7 17. Nf5 f6 18. Bc1 Kh8 19. a4 a5 20. Rb1 Qf7 21. Ne3
1. c4 e5 2. Nc3 Nf6 3. Nf3 Nc6 4. g3 Bb4 5. Bg2 O-O 6. O-O e4 7. Ng5 Bxc3 8. bxc3 Re8 9. f3 exf3 10. Nxf3 Qe7 11. e3 d6 12. d3 Ne5 13. Nh4 Rb8 14. e4 Bg4 15. Qc2 Qe6 16. Bg5 Nfd7 17. Nf5 f6 18. Bc1 Kh8 19. a4 a5 20. Rb1 Qf7 21. Ne3 Bh5
1. c4 e5 2. Nc3 Nf6 3. Nf3 Nc6 4. g3 Bb4 5. Bg2 O-O 6. O-O e4 7. Ng5 Bxc3 8. bxc3 Re8 9. f3 exf3 10. Nxf3 Qe7 11. e3 d6 12. d3 Ne5 13. Nh4 Rb8 14. e4 Bg4 15. Qc2 Qe6 16. Bg5 Nfd7 17. Nf5 f6 18. Bc1 Kh8 19. a4 a5 20. Rb1 Qf7 21. Ne3 Bh5 22. Nd5
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1. c4 e5 2. Nc3 Nf6 3. Nf3 Nc6 4. g3 Bb4 5. Bg2 O-O 6. O-O e4 7. Ng5 Bxc3 8. bxc3 Re8 9. f3 exf3 10. Nxf3 Qe7 11. e3 d6 12. d3 Ne5 13. Nh4 Rb8 14. e4 Bg4 15. Qc2 Qe6 16. Bg5 Nfd7 17. Nf5 f6 18. Bc1 Kh8 19. a4 a5 20. Rb1 Qf7 21. Ne3 Bh5 22. Nd5 c6
again... unexpected.. 
i'm worried now... this time i was careful and thorough!
i'm worried now... this time i was careful and thorough!
Actually, it's me who should be worried, if I didn't play other moves is because they failed low, c6 was the only move that didn't explode in my face.
Your comments lead me to believe I've been running into self refutations, finding moves from white that look very good and assuming you'd find them too, so I have to avoid those positions, I guess we will never know.
Your comments lead me to believe I've been running into self refutations, finding moves from white that look very good and assuming you'd find them too, so I have to avoid those positions, I guess we will never know.
if i must say.. this is a very interesting game... every centi pawn is precious. all this is possible for me, of course, because early on you wanted to gamble... you chose to let me have a slight edge.. The truth is, the move you knew you probably should have played but didn't (say, 9...e3 instead of the played 9...exf3) would have given me a tough position. Technically, you had a very nice book win, but opted to experiment :) maybe to learn more about me :)
9...e3 was deemed too dangerous, the unfolding variation would have been like suiciding if you were a much stronger opponent than me, that I didn't know and didn't want to take the risk and lose the game in one move.
I still don't know if I should play such positions against you, playing moves that you don't expect doesn't achieve anything if I remain in trouble.
I still don't know if I should play such positions against you, playing moves that you don't expect doesn't achieve anything if I remain in trouble.
1. c4 e5 2. Nc3 Nf6 3. Nf3 Nc6 4. g3 Bb4 5. Bg2 O-O 6. O-O e4 7. Ng5 Bxc3 8. bxc3 Re8 9. f3 exf3 10. Nxf3 Qe7 11. e3 d6 12. d3 Ne5 13. Nh4 Rb8 14. e4 Bg4 15. Qc2 Qe6 16. Bg5 Nfd7 17. Nf5 f6 18. Bc1 Kh8 19. a4 a5 20. Rb1 Qf7 21. Ne3 Bh5 22. Nd5 c6 23. Ne3
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1. c4 e5 2. Nc3 Nf6 3. Nf3 Nc6 4. g3 Bb4 5. Bg2 O-O 6. O-O e4 7. Ng5 Bxc3 8. bxc3 Re8 9. f3 exf3 10. Nxf3 Qe7 11. e3 d6 12. d3 Ne5 13. Nh4 Rb8 14. e4 Bg4 15. Qc2 Qe6 16. Bg5 Nfd7 17. Nf5 f6 18. Bc1 Kh8 19. a4 a5 20. Rb1 Qf7 21. Ne3 Bh5 22. Nd5 c6 23. Ne3 Bg6
1. c4 e5 2. Nc3 Nf6 3. Nf3 Nc6 4. g3 Bb4 5. Bg2 O-O 6. O-O e4 7. Ng5 Bxc3 8. bxc3 Re8 9. f3 exf3 10. Nxf3 Qe7 11. e3 d6 12. d3 Ne5 13. Nh4 Rb8 14. e4 Bg4 15. Qc2 Qe6 16. Bg5 Nfd7 17. Nf5 f6 18. Bc1 Kh8 19. a4 a5 20. Rb1 Qf7 21. Ne3 Bh5 22. Nd5 c6 23. Ne3 Bg6 24. Rf4
1. c4 e5 2. Nc3 Nf6 3. Nf3 Nc6 4. g3 Bb4 5. Bg2 O-O 6. O-O e4 7. Ng5 Bxc3 8. bxc3 Re8 9. f3 exf3 10. Nxf3 Qe7 11. e3 d6 12. d3 Ne5 13. Nh4 Rb8 14. e4 Bg4 15. Qc2 Qe6 16. Bg5 Nfd7 17. Nf5 f6 18. Bc1 Kh8 19. a4 a5 20. Rb1 Qf7 21. Ne3 Bh5 22. Nd5 c6 23. Ne3 Bg6 24. Rf4 Qe6
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1. c4 e5 2. Nc3 Nf6 3. Nf3 Nc6 4. g3 Bb4 5. Bg2 O-O 6. O-O e4 7. Ng5 Bxc3 8. bxc3 Re8 9. f3 exf3 10. Nxf3 Qe7 11. e3 d6 12. d3 Ne5 13. Nh4 Rb8 14. e4 Bg4 15. Qc2 Qe6 16. Bg5 Nfd7 17. Nf5 f6 18. Bc1 Kh8 19. a4 a5 20. Rb1 Qf7 21. Ne3 Bh5 22. Nd5 c6 23. Ne3 Bg6 24. Rf4 Qe6 25. Nf5
1. c4 e5 2. Nc3 Nf6 3. Nf3 Nc6 4. g3 Bb4 5. Bg2 O-O 6. O-O e4 7. Ng5 Bxc3 8. bxc3 Re8 9. f3 exf3 10. Nxf3 Qe7 11. e3 d6 12. d3 Ne5 13. Nh4 Rb8 14. e4 Bg4 15. Qc2 Qe6 16. Bg5 Nfd7 17. Nf5 f6 18. Bc1 Kh8 19. a4 a5 20. Rb1 Qf7 21. Ne3 Bh5 22. Nd5 c6 23. Ne3 Bg6 24. Rf4 Qe6 25. Nf5 Bh5
Impressive...
We've been impressing each other, I overlooked 25.Nf5!!
well, this sets me back about 3 or 4 days of planning...
how do you do it.. with so many matches going on at once?
how do you do it.. with so many matches going on at once?
I keep changing my analysis method as the game advances, keeping what works and discarding what doesn't, eventually using radically different analysis methods in all my games.
At first I thought this was dependent of the opponent, but on my simultaneous games against turbojuice I ended doing very different things in each game (it's basically as if he was playing a different opponent in each one), so it's very dependent of the position, don't expect what you always do to work every time, what I love about correspondence chess is that every game is totally different, if I had an analysis routine that I used all the time, I would quickly get bored and quit, luckily there are many ways to go about analyzing a game.
I still have troubles with this game, as I deem my position risky, maybe we can discuss the details of the analysis after we're over with the match, I'll just say that using several engines is a key, and that I'm not relying on Rybka 4 (nor its clones) for this game.
At first I thought this was dependent of the opponent, but on my simultaneous games against turbojuice I ended doing very different things in each game (it's basically as if he was playing a different opponent in each one), so it's very dependent of the position, don't expect what you always do to work every time, what I love about correspondence chess is that every game is totally different, if I had an analysis routine that I used all the time, I would quickly get bored and quit, luckily there are many ways to go about analyzing a game.
I still have troubles with this game, as I deem my position risky, maybe we can discuss the details of the analysis after we're over with the match, I'll just say that using several engines is a key, and that I'm not relying on Rybka 4 (nor its clones) for this game.
well, i have to keep my analysis method ...methodical. i don't think it's the most superior. i tried a few different ways, but it was always hard to remember where i left off. what i use now is good for me.. it's organized and neat and it's really easy to pick up even a couple days after not doing anything.
i also find this game difficult.. it's hard for me to get the edge. there have been moments when i felt like i was getting it, but then you came along and threw me off track (of course, never a clear edge, never mind a winning position).... playing solid moves that i didn't expect. the first one i assumed was my fault.. i tried to learn from it. but then i realized that it wasn't nearly so much my fault, as your fresh approach. anyhow, i'm scratching my head right now.. i'm beginning to see a single ray of light, but time will tell.
i would love to discuss some of the details with you. i'll be as open as i can without giving analysis methods (though i'm sure what i'm doing isn't that special anyway). i don't know how much help i'll be to you, but i'll try my best
if you're really not using rybka or clones, i tip my hat to you.
tom
i also find this game difficult.. it's hard for me to get the edge. there have been moments when i felt like i was getting it, but then you came along and threw me off track (of course, never a clear edge, never mind a winning position).... playing solid moves that i didn't expect. the first one i assumed was my fault.. i tried to learn from it. but then i realized that it wasn't nearly so much my fault, as your fresh approach. anyhow, i'm scratching my head right now.. i'm beginning to see a single ray of light, but time will tell.
i would love to discuss some of the details with you. i'll be as open as i can without giving analysis methods (though i'm sure what i'm doing isn't that special anyway). i don't know how much help i'll be to you, but i'll try my best
if you're really not using rybka or clones, i tip my hat to you.
tom
> i would love to discuss some of the details with you.
Alright, as long as it's not about IDEA, I never learned how to use that thing.
> if you're really not using rybka or clones, i tip my hat to you.
I'm using Rybka 4 and Rybka 3 Dynamic (no clones), but not relying on them, for the past move I analyzed about 8 positions with R4 and 6 with R3D, at a depth no higher than 18, but only for them to agree that the move I already found was best, it wouldn't have affected my move choice not using them, but I do it on every move just in case.
yeah, i don't know how to use IDEA either... it's a little complicated.. i wish there were some rookie tutorials. if you and i admit to this, then there must be many others out there.
i guess your advantage is that you have some decent chess knowledge. i used 5 or 6 engines, and none saw that move as an option.. and not just an option, but the best move by far! The sad thing is, even if i saw this move coming, I didn't see better options when i go back 2 moves. i still would have played what i played. but my position seemed to be decent. now i hit a brick wall that i can't crack yet. I will only move before the 'deadline' if i feel i found a crack.
i guess your advantage is that you have some decent chess knowledge. i used 5 or 6 engines, and none saw that move as an option.. and not just an option, but the best move by far! The sad thing is, even if i saw this move coming, I didn't see better options when i go back 2 moves. i still would have played what i played. but my position seemed to be decent. now i hit a brick wall that i can't crack yet. I will only move before the 'deadline' if i feel i found a crack.
Thanks, but I have to say that I didn't force Bh5 to explore it or anything, the engines guided me to it, actually I didn't like the move at first because the Bishop already comes from that square and doesn't seem to do anything there, but I hammered the move and it survived as the best.
So my technique is good enough to allow me to find Bh5, but not enough to allow me to understand why is it the best, all I saw was evaluation scores and centipawns grabbing.
So my technique is good enough to allow me to find Bh5, but not enough to allow me to understand why is it the best, all I saw was evaluation scores and centipawns grabbing.
well, i don't understand why it's the best either.. but what worries me is that my technique didn't allow me to find Bh5.
Well, did you check Bh5 at all?
One possible analysis method includes checking all the moves that are possible for you and for the opponent on at least this halfmove and the next, no matter how dumb they are (like, queen for pawn exchanges are also examined) this way no matter what the opponent plays, you'll at least have one position analyzed for it.
I'd call it "Brute force analysis", I used to rely on it back when I used 1CPU for my games and had some effectiveness, after I upgraded BFA would be too slow and it was critical that I deeply examined the variations, so my time was better spent doing something else than checking all possible moves, but it's just an idea.
One possible analysis method includes checking all the moves that are possible for you and for the opponent on at least this halfmove and the next, no matter how dumb they are (like, queen for pawn exchanges are also examined) this way no matter what the opponent plays, you'll at least have one position analyzed for it.
I'd call it "Brute force analysis", I used to rely on it back when I used 1CPU for my games and had some effectiveness, after I upgraded BFA would be too slow and it was critical that I deeply examined the variations, so my time was better spent doing something else than checking all possible moves, but it's just an idea.
hmm, i may give that a try, but i feel like it might slow me down a lot..
okay, i think i might see something off in the distance.. but this is a brick wall i hit now. good job.
1. c4 e5 2. Nc3 Nf6 3. Nf3 Nc6 4. g3 Bb4 5. Bg2 O-O 6. O-O e4 7. Ng5 Bxc3 8. bxc3 Re8 9. f3 exf3 10. Nxf3 Qe7 11. e3 d6 12. d3 Ne5 13. Nh4 Rb8 14. e4 Bg4 15. Qc2 Qe6 16. Bg5 Nfd7 17. Nf5 f6 18. Bc1 Kh8 19. a4 a5 20. Rb1 Qf7 21. Ne3 Bh5 22. Nd5 c6 23. Ne3 Bg6 24. Rf4 Qe6 25. Nf5 Bh5 26. Bf1
1. c4 e5 2. Nc3 Nf6 3. Nf3 Nc6 4. g3 Bb4 5. Bg2 O-O 6. O-O e4 7. Ng5 Bxc3 8. bxc3 Re8 9. f3 exf3 10. Nxf3 Qe7 11. e3 d6 12. d3 Ne5 13. Nh4 Rb8 14. e4 Bg4 15. Qc2 Qe6 16. Bg5 Nfd7 17. Nf5 f6 18. Bc1 Kh8 19. a4 a5 20. Rb1 Qf7 21. Ne3 Bh5 22. Nd5 c6 23. Ne3 Bg6 24. Rf4 Qe6 25. Nf5 Bh5 26. Bf1
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Anyway, after seeing so much shuffling I'm going to do this:
1. c4 e5 2. Nc3 Nf6 3. Nf3 Nc6 4. g3 Bb4 5. Bg2 O-O 6. O-O e4 7. Ng5 Bxc3 8. bxc3 Re8 9. f3 exf3 10. Nxf3 Qe7 11. e3 d6 12. d3 Ne5 13. Nh4 Rb8 14. e4 Bg4 15. Qc2 Qe6 16. Bg5 Nfd7 17. Nf5 f6 18. Bc1 Kh8 19. a4 a5 20. Rb1 Qf7 21. Ne3 Bh5 22. Nd5 c6 23. Ne3 Bg6 24. Rf4 Qe6 25. Nf5 Bh5 26. Bf1 b6 {Draw Offer.}
1. c4 e5 2. Nc3 Nf6 3. Nf3 Nc6 4. g3 Bb4 5. Bg2 O-O 6. O-O e4 7. Ng5 Bxc3 8. bxc3 Re8 9. f3 exf3 10. Nxf3 Qe7 11. e3 d6 12. d3 Ne5 13. Nh4 Rb8 14. e4 Bg4 15. Qc2 Qe6 16. Bg5 Nfd7 17. Nf5 f6 18. Bc1 Kh8 19. a4 a5 20. Rb1 Qf7 21. Ne3 Bh5 22. Nd5 c6 23. Ne3 Bg6 24. Rf4 Qe6 25. Nf5 Bh5 26. Bf1 b6 {Draw Offer.}
hmm, okay, let me consider this.. if i don't see any progress, i will accept. you're right, though, there is some shuffling around happening.. but the game is still fresh. If this is still happening in 10 moves, then i'll be more inclined to accept if i don't see clear progress.
in any case, i expected a much different move. I foresaw this one, but discarded it as a little weaker... that's why i'm not inclined to accept.
my assumptions may very well be wrong, but i'm about to find out
in any case, i expected a much different move. I foresaw this one, but discarded it as a little weaker... that's why i'm not inclined to accept.
my assumptions may very well be wrong, but i'm about to find out
good news for you is that the position is fizzling out..
1. c4 e5 2. Nc3 Nf6 3. Nf3 Nc6 4. g3 Bb4 5. Bg2 O-O 6. O-O e4 7. Ng5 Bxc3 8. bxc3 Re8 9. f3 exf3 10. Nxf3 Qe7 11. e3 d6 12. d3 Ne5 13. Nh4 Rb8 14. e4 Bg4 15. Qc2 Qe6 16. Bg5 Nfd7 17. Nf5 f6 18. Bc1 Kh8 19. a4 a5 20. Rb1 Qf7 21. Ne3 Bh5 22. Nd5 c6 23. Ne3 Bg6 24. Rf4 Qe6 25. Nf5 Bh5 26. Bf1 b6 27. h3
let's see what happens...
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let's see what happens...
1. c4 e5 2. Nc3 Nf6 3. Nf3 Nc6 4. g3 Bb4 5. Bg2 O-O 6. O-O e4 7. Ng5 Bxc3 8. bxc3 Re8 9. f3 exf3 10. Nxf3 Qe7 11. e3 d6 12. d3 Ne5 13. Nh4 Rb8 14. e4 Bg4 15. Qc2 Qe6 16. Bg5 Nfd7 17. Nf5 f6 18. Bc1 Kh8 19. a4 a5 20. Rb1 Qf7 21. Ne3 Bh5 22. Nd5 c6 23. Ne3 Bg6 24. Rf4 Qe6 25. Nf5 Bh5 26. Bf1 b6 27. h3 Rbc8
I wonder what deep move you have to surprise me, all I see is shuffling.
I wonder what deep move you have to surprise me, all I see is shuffling.
please bear with me... maybe i'm misreading the situation. however, i believe i'm making some progress.. just a little patience :) i won't beat a dead horse, though, so if i see that it leads nowhere, i will offer draw.
p.s. my wife is getting a little jealous.. please assure her you're a guy!
> I wonder what deep move you have to surprise me, all I see is shuffling.
i'm only half joking when i say: mate in ~66...
(predicting about move 94)if you hadn't surprised me so many times i'd only be 1/10 joking
1. c4 e5 2. Nc3 Nf6 3. Nf3 Nc6 4. g3 Bb4 5. Bg2 O-O 6. O-O e4 7. Ng5 Bxc3 8. bxc3 Re8 9. f3 exf3 10. Nxf3 Qe7 11. e3 d6 12. d3 Ne5 13. Nh4 Rb8 14. e4 Bg4 15. Qc2 Qe6 16. Bg5 Nfd7 17. Nf5 f6 18. Bc1 Kh8 19. a4 a5 20. Rb1 Qf7 21. Ne3 Bh5 22. Nd5 c6 23. Ne3 Bg6 24. Rf4 Qe6 25. Nf5 Bh5 26. Bf1 b6 27. h3 Rbc8 28. g4
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Yes, I'm a guy, she should be jealous of Caïssa
Caïssa: Chess Goddess.
1. c4 e5 2. Nc3 Nf6 3. Nf3 Nc6 4. g3 Bb4 5. Bg2 O-O 6. O-O e4 7. Ng5 Bxc3 8. bxc3 Re8 9. f3 exf3 10. Nxf3 Qe7 11. e3 d6 12. d3 Ne5 13. Nh4 Rb8 14. e4 Bg4 15. Qc2 Qe6 16. Bg5 Nfd7 17. Nf5 f6 18. Bc1 Kh8 19. a4 a5 20. Rb1 Qf7 21. Ne3 Bh5 22. Nd5 c6 23. Ne3 Bg6 24. Rf4 Qe6 25. Nf5 Bh5 26. Bf1 b6 27. h3 Rbc8 28. g4 g5
Caïssa: Chess Goddess.
1. c4 e5 2. Nc3 Nf6 3. Nf3 Nc6 4. g3 Bb4 5. Bg2 O-O 6. O-O e4 7. Ng5 Bxc3 8. bxc3 Re8 9. f3 exf3 10. Nxf3 Qe7 11. e3 d6 12. d3 Ne5 13. Nh4 Rb8 14. e4 Bg4 15. Qc2 Qe6 16. Bg5 Nfd7 17. Nf5 f6 18. Bc1 Kh8 19. a4 a5 20. Rb1 Qf7 21. Ne3 Bh5 22. Nd5 c6 23. Ne3 Bg6 24. Rf4 Qe6 25. Nf5 Bh5 26. Bf1 b6 27. h3 Rbc8 28. g4 g5
i shouldn't be surprised, but this cancels the mate in ~66 declaration. this also ruins days of calculations.. i had a nice trap set for you!
and that you for the pic and answer... i will show her this tomorrow
1. c4 e5 2. Nc3 Nf6 3. Nf3 Nc6 4. g3 Bb4 5. Bg2 O-O 6. O-O e4 7. Ng5 Bxc3 8. bxc3 Re8 9. f3 exf3 10. Nxf3 Qe7 11. e3 d6 12. d3 Ne5 13. Nh4 Rb8 14. e4 Bg4 15. Qc2 Qe6 16. Bg5 Nfd7 17. Nf5 f6 18. Bc1 Kh8 19. a4 a5 20. Rb1 Qf7 21. Ne3 Bh5 22. Nd5 c6 23. Ne3 Bg6 24. Rf4 Qe6 25. Nf5 Bh5 26. Bf1 b6 27. h3 Rbc8 28. g4 g5 29. Rf2
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>i shouldn't be surprised, but this cancels the mate in ~66 declaration.
Phew!
I discarded 28...Bg6 very early and focused all my resources on 28...g5, so I didn't get to see any trap, or anything...
1. c4 e5 2. Nc3 Nf6 3. Nf3 Nc6 4. g3 Bb4 5. Bg2 O-O 6. O-O e4 7. Ng5 Bxc3 8. bxc3 Re8 9. f3 exf3 10. Nxf3 Qe7 11. e3 d6 12. d3 Ne5 13. Nh4 Rb8 14. e4 Bg4 15. Qc2 Qe6 16. Bg5 Nfd7 17. Nf5 f6 18. Bc1 Kh8 19. a4 a5 20. Rb1 Qf7 21. Ne3 Bh5 22. Nd5 c6 23. Ne3 Bg6 24. Rf4 Qe6 25. Nf5 Bh5 26. Bf1 b6 27. h3 Rbc8 28. g4 g5 29. Rf2 Bg6
> so I didn't get to see any trap, or anything...
i thought i had you... but you are to good to fall for silly traps.. anyhow, i'm starting not to make much progress... unless i find something interesting, expect a draw offer :)
please bear with me for a few more moves... i'm just not convinced my position is draw completely
1. c4 e5 2. Nc3 Nf6 3. Nf3 Nc6 4. g3 Bb4 5. Bg2 O-O 6. O-O e4 7. Ng5 Bxc3 8. bxc3 Re8 9. f3 exf3 10. Nxf3 Qe7 11. e3 d6 12. d3 Ne5 13. Nh4 Rb8 14. e4 Bg4 15. Qc2 Qe6 16. Bg5 Nfd7 17. Nf5 f6 18. Bc1 Kh8 19. a4 a5 20. Rb1 Qf7 21. Ne3 Bh5 22. Nd5 c6 23. Ne3 Bg6 24. Rf4 Qe6 25. Nf5 Bh5 26. Bf1 b6 27. h3 Rbc8 28. g4 g5 29. Rf2 Bg6 30.Bg2
1. c4 e5 2. Nc3 Nf6 3. Nf3 Nc6 4. g3 Bb4 5. Bg2 O-O 6. O-O e4 7. Ng5 Bxc3 8. bxc3 Re8 9. f3 exf3 10. Nxf3 Qe7 11. e3 d6 12. d3 Ne5 13. Nh4 Rb8 14. e4 Bg4 15. Qc2 Qe6 16. Bg5 Nfd7 17. Nf5 f6 18. Bc1 Kh8 19. a4 a5 20. Rb1 Qf7 21. Ne3 Bh5 22. Nd5 c6 23. Ne3 Bg6 24. Rf4 Qe6 25. Nf5 Bh5 26. Bf1 b6 27. h3 Rbc8 28. g4 g5 29. Rf2 Bg6 30.Bg2
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>but you are to good to fall for silly traps..
You don't know until you try, I'm sure that if the trap is good enough, I'd fall on it
The draw offer stands until I remove it, you can accept it at any time.
1. c4 e5 2. Nc3 Nf6 3. Nf3 Nc6 4. g3 Bb4 5. Bg2 O-O 6. O-O e4 7. Ng5 Bxc3 8. bxc3 Re8 9. f3 exf3 10. Nxf3 Qe7 11. e3 d6 12. d3 Ne5 13. Nh4 Rb8 14. e4 Bg4 15. Qc2 Qe6 16. Bg5 Nfd7 17. Nf5 f6 18. Bc1 Kh8 19. a4 a5 20. Rb1 Qf7 21. Ne3 Bh5 22. Nd5 c6 23. Ne3 Bg6 24. Rf4 Qe6 25. Nf5 Bh5 26. Bf1 b6 27. h3 Rbc8 28. g4 g5 29. Rf2 Bg6 30. Bg2 Bxf5
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1. c4 e5 2. Nc3 Nf6 3. Nf3 Nc6 4. g3 Bb4 5. Bg2 O-O 6. O-O e4 7. Ng5 Bxc3 8. bxc3 Re8 9. f3 exf3 10. Nxf3 Qe7 11. e3 d6 12. d3 Ne5 13. Nh4 Rb8 14. e4 Bg4 15. Qc2 Qe6 16. Bg5 Nfd7 17. Nf5 f6 18. Bc1 Kh8 19. a4 a5 20. Rb1 Qf7 21. Ne3 Bh5 22. Nd5 c6 23. Ne3 Bg6 24. Rf4 Qe6 25. Nf5 Bh5 26. Bf1 b6 27. h3 Rbc8 28. g4 g5 29. Rf2 Bg6 30. Bg2 Bxf5 31. exf5
1. c4 e5 2. Nc3 Nf6 3. Nf3 Nc6 4. g3 Bb4 5. Bg2 O-O 6. O-O e4 7. Ng5 Bxc3 8. bxc3 Re8 9. f3 exf3 10. Nxf3 Qe7 11. e3 d6 12. d3 Ne5 13. Nh4 Rb8 14. e4 Bg4 15. Qc2 Qe6 16. Bg5 Nfd7 17. Nf5 f6 18. Bc1 Kh8 19. a4 a5 20. Rb1 Qf7 21. Ne3 Bh5 22. Nd5 c6 23. Ne3 Bg6 24. Rf4 Qe6 25. Nf5 Bh5 26. Bf1 b6 27. h3 Rbc8 28. g4 g5 29. Rf2 Bg6 30. Bg2 Bxf5 31. exf5 Qf7
this will be hard.. i hope i can win .. by move 52 i have advantage +2.45 (i don't think it's a forced line, just a probable one..) but it's still hard to see how white has the edge. the only reason i'm dragging this out, is that that score keeps increasing for me... so whether i see it or not, my analysis is somehow indicating i'm making progress.
thanks for patience :)
thanks for patience :)
1. c4 e5 2. Nc3 Nf6 3. Nf3 Nc6 4. g3 Bb4 5. Bg2 O-O 6. O-O e4 7. Ng5 Bxc3 8. bxc3 Re8 9. f3 exf3 10. Nxf3 Qe7 11. e3 d6 12. d3 Ne5 13. Nh4 Rb8 14. e4 Bg4 15. Qc2 Qe6 16. Bg5 Nfd7 17. Nf5 f6 18. Bc1 Kh8 19. a4 a5 20. Rb1 Qf7 21. Ne3 Bh5 22. Nd5 c6 23. Ne3 Bg6 24. Rf4 Qe6 25. Nf5 Bh5 26. Bf1 b6 27. h3 Rbc8 28. g4 g5 29. Rf2 Bg6 30. Bg2 Bxf5 31. exf5 Qf7 32. Qd1
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1. c4 e5 2. Nc3 Nf6 3. Nf3 Nc6 4. g3 Bb4 5. Bg2 O-O 6. O-O e4 7. Ng5 Bxc3 8. bxc3 Re8 9. f3 exf3 10. Nxf3 Qe7 11. e3 d6 12. d3 Ne5 13. Nh4 Rb8 14. e4 Bg4 15. Qc2 Qe6 16. Bg5 Nfd7 17. Nf5 f6 18. Bc1 Kh8 19. a4 a5 20. Rb1 Qf7 21. Ne3 Bh5 22. Nd5 c6 23. Ne3 Bg6 24. Rf4 Qe6 25. Nf5 Bh5 26. Bf1 b6 27. h3 Rbc8 28. g4 g5 29. Rf2 Bg6 30. Bg2 Bxf5 31. exf5 Qf7 32. Qd1 h6
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