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- - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2009-10-22 03:38
On the first game Rowlando surprised Vytron with 31...Re2!!, that decidedly turned the game into a draw (though it was probable a draw before.) On this one Rowlando gets winning chances as white. Let's remember Rowlando can use IDEA while Vytron cannot, and that Rowlando is running in significantly slower hardware.

...sorry about that, I just like being also the narrator :)

1. d4 d5 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 c6 4. Nf3 dxc4 5. a4 Bb4 6. e3 b5 7. Bd2 a5 8. axb5 Bxc3 9. Bxc3 cxb5 10. b3 Bb7 11. bxc4 b4 12. Bb2 Nf6

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Good luck!
Parent - - By Rowlando (***) Date 2009-10-22 07:28
Good luck to you as well!  Another interesting game awaits....

1. d4 d5 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 c6 4. Nf3 dxc4 5. a4 Bb4 6. e3 b5 7. Bd2 a5 8. axb5 Bxc3 9. Bxc3 cxb5 10. b3 Bb7 11. bxc4 b4 12. Bb2 Nf6 13.Bd3

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Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2009-10-22 10:45
I hope to be able to surprise you this time around :)
Parent - - By Dadi Jonsson (Silver) [is] Date 2009-10-22 10:48
It will be a surprise if you don't. After all you have the huge advantage exact centipawn values, hehe ;)
Parent - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2009-10-22 10:58
A valuable lesson I learned from last game: It doesn't matter if your best move is 0.17 or 0.25, what matters is that it IS the top move! :yell:

Squeezing centi-pawn by centi-pawn didn't work on the last game because I missed the key move, I'll try to become more like Rowlando.
- - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2009-10-23 02:38
1. d4 d5 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 c6 4. Nf3 dxc4 5. a4 Bb4 6. e3 b5 7. Bd2 a5 8. axb5 Bxc3 9. Bxc3 cxb5 10. b3 Bb7 11. bxc4 b4 12. Bb2 Nf6 13. Bd3 O-O

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Parent - By Rowlando (***) Date 2009-10-23 04:31
1. d4 d5 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 c6 4. Nf3 dxc4 5. a4 Bb4 6. e3 b5 7. Bd2 a5 8. axb5 Bxc3 9. Bxc3 cxb5 10. b3 Bb7 11. bxc4 b4 12. Bb2 Nf6 13. Bd3 O-O 14. O-O

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- - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2009-10-23 19:06
1. d4 d5 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 c6 4. Nf3 dxc4 5. a4 Bb4 6. e3 b5 7. Bd2 a5 8. axb5 Bxc3 9. Bxc3 cxb5 10. b3 Bb7 11. bxc4 b4 12. Bb2 Nf6 13. Bd3 O-O 14. O-O Nbd7

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Parent - By Rowlando (***) Date 2009-10-24 01:57
1. d4 d5 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 c6 4. Nf3 dxc4 5. a4 Bb4 6. e3 b5 7. Bd2 a5 8. axb5 Bxc3 9. Bxc3 cxb5 10. b3 Bb7 11. bxc4 b4 12. Bb2 Nf6 13. Bd3 O-O 14. O-O Nbd7 15.Re1

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- - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2009-10-24 18:22
1. d4 d5 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 c6 4. Nf3 dxc4 5. a4 Bb4 6. e3 b5 7. Bd2 a5 8. axb5 Bxc3 9. Bxc3 cxb5 10. b3 Bb7 11. bxc4 b4 12. Bb2 Nf6 13. Bd3 O-O 14. O-O Nbd7 15. Re1 Be4

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Parent - - By Rowlando (***) Date 2009-10-24 21:46
I've always been curious about Rybka's willingness to give up the light square bishop so easily in this opening.  Most Noteboom players will go to great lengths to avoid trading off such a powerful piece.  Rybka, on the other hand, doesn't hesitate to trade the bishop off and by all appearances it's something she believes very strongly because even a thorough distributed analysis is not sufficient to change her mind.  The apparent contradiction between Rybka and the conventional wisdom was a big factor in my decision to play the mainline.

When I'm playing the black side of the Noteboom I often have to overrule Rybka several times to keep the LSB in play.  Since this is the first time I've ever played the white side (1.e4!) I knew there was a good chance I'd have the opportunity to challenge Rybka's strategic assessment.  It goes without saying that I'd like to prove Rybka wrong but regardless of the outcome my hope is to play an instructive game that helps answer a nagging question concerning one of my favorite openings.

Move to follow shortly.
Parent - - By Highendman (****) Date 2009-10-24 21:52
Cool. Thanks for the insight on your plan. I'm really enjoying watching your games.
Parent - By Rowlando (***) Date 2009-10-25 07:01

> I'm really enjoying watching your games.


Glad to hear it!  I felt the same going over your games vs the cluster - very impressive!
Parent - By Rowlando (***) Date 2009-10-25 06:59
1. d4 d5 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 c6 4. Nf3 dxc4 5. a4 Bb4 6. e3 b5 7. Bd2 a5 8. axb5 Bxc3 9. Bxc3 cxb5 10. b3 Bb7 11. bxc4 b4 12. Bb2 Nf6 13. Bd3 O-O 14. O-O Nbd7 15. Re1 Be4 16. Bc2

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- - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2009-10-26 18:08
1. d4 d5 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 c6 4. Nf3 dxc4 5. a4 Bb4 6. e3 b5 7. Bd2 a5 8. axb5 Bxc3 9. Bxc3 cxb5 10. b3 Bb7 11. bxc4 b4 12. Bb2 Nf6 13. Bd3 O-O 14. O-O Nbd7 15. Re1 Be4 16. Bc2 Qc7

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Parent - By Rowlando (***) Date 2009-10-26 23:44
1. d4 d5 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 c6 4. Nf3 dxc4 5. a4 Bb4 6. e3 b5 7. Bd2 a5 8. axb5 Bxc3 9. Bxc3 cxb5 10. b3 Bb7 11. bxc4 b4 12. Bb2 Nf6 13. Bd3 O-O 14. O-O Nbd7 15. Re1 Be4 16. Bc2 Qc7 17. c5

r4rk1/2qn1ppp/4pn2/p1P5/1p1Pb3/4PN2/1BB2PPP/R2QR1K1 b - - 0 1
- - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2009-10-27 10:47
1. d4 d5 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 c6 4. Nf3 dxc4 5. a4 Bb4 6. e3 b5 7. Bd2 a5 8. axb5 Bxc3 9. Bxc3 cxb5 10. b3 Bb7 11. bxc4 b4 12. Bb2 Nf6 13. Bd3 O-O 14. O-O Nbd7 15. Re1 Be4 16. Bc2 Qc7 17. c5 Rfd8

r2r2k1/2qn1ppp/4pn2/p1P5/1p1Pb3/4PN2/1BB2PPP/R2QR1K1 w - -
Parent - By Rowlando (***) Date 2009-10-29 18:27
1. d4 d5 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 c6 4. Nf3 dxc4 5. a4 Bb4 6. e3 b5 7. Bd2 a5 8. axb5 Bxc3 9. Bxc3 cxb5 10. b3 Bb7 11. bxc4 b4 12. Bb2 Nf6 13. Bd3 O-O 14. O-O Nbd7 15. Re1 Be4 16. Bc2 Qc7 17. c5 Rfd8 18. Ba4

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- - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2009-10-30 20:27
1. d4 d5 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 c6 4. Nf3 dxc4 5. a4 Bb4 6. e3 b5 7. Bd2 a5 8. axb5 Bxc3 9. Bxc3 cxb5 10. b3 Bb7 11. bxc4 b4 12. Bb2 Nf6 13. Bd3 O-O 14. O-O Nbd7 15. Re1 Be4 16. Bc2 Qc7 17. c5 Rfd8 18. Ba4 Bc6

r2r2k1/2qn1ppp/2b1pn2/p1P5/Bp1P4/4PN2/1B3PPP/R2QR1K1 w - -
Parent - By Rowlando (***) Date 2009-11-01 10:29
1. d4 d5 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 c6 4. Nf3 dxc4 5. a4 Bb4 6. e3 b5 7. Bd2 a5 8. axb5 Bxc3 9. Bxc3 cxb5 10. b3 Bb7 11. bxc4 b4 12. Bb2 Nf6 13. Bd3 O-O 14. O-O Nbd7 15. Re1 Be4 16. Bc2 Qc7 17. c5 Rfd8 18. Ba4 Bc6 19. Qc2

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- - By Rowlando (***) Date 2009-11-02 05:03
Do you want to put this game on hold to free up time for the HEM games?
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2009-11-02 18:08
No, if you don't mind waiting a little (?) more for my moves I'll be able to play just fine (i.e. in one of my other games it's trivial to chose a move, and the other game can take the spot of my game against Vempele, so I'll be fine, this move has been delayed due to real life, not due to too many games.)
Parent - By Rowlando (***) Date 2009-11-02 19:50

> ...if you don't mind waiting a little (?) more for my moves...


I don't mind.  Take all the time you need.
- - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2009-11-02 22:50
1. d4 d5 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 c6 4. Nf3 dxc4 5. a4 Bb4 6. e3 b5 7. Bd2 a5 8. axb5 Bxc3 9. Bxc3 cxb5 10. b3 Bb7 11. bxc4 b4 12. Bb2 Nf6 13. Bd3 O-O 14. O-O Nbd7 15. Re1 Be4 16. Bc2 Qc7 17. c5 Rfd8 18. Ba4 Bc6 19. Qc2 Qb7

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Parent - By Rowlando (***) Date 2009-11-11 19:27
1. d4 d5 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 c6 4. Nf3 dxc4 5. a4 Bb4 6. e3 b5 7. Bd2 a5 8. axb5 Bxc3 9. Bxc3 cxb5 10. b3 Bb7 11. bxc4 b4 12. Bb2 Nf6 13. Bd3 O-O 14. O-O Nbd7 15. Re1 Be4 16. Bc2 Qc7 17. c5 Rfd8 18. Ba4 Bc6 19. Qc2 Qb7 20. Rec1

r2r2k1/1q1n1ppp/2b1pn2/p1P5/Bp1P4/4PN2/1BQ2PPP/R1R3K1 b - - 0 20
- - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2009-11-12 08:25
1. d4 d5 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 c6 4. Nf3 dxc4 5. a4 Bb4 6. e3 b5 7. Bd2 a5 8. axb5 Bxc3 9. Bxc3 cxb5 10. b3 Bb7 11. bxc4 b4 12. Bb2 Nf6 13. Bd3 O-O 14. O-O Nbd7 15. Re1 Be4 16. Bc2 Qc7 17. c5 Rfd8 18. Ba4 Bc6 19. Qc2 Qb7 20. Rec1 Bxf3

r2r2k1/1q1n1ppp/4pn2/p1P5/Bp1P4/4Pb2/1BQ2PPP/R1R3K1 w - -
Parent - By Rowlando (***) Date 2009-11-12 09:04
1. d4 d5 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 c6 4. Nf3 dxc4 5. a4 Bb4 6. e3 b5 7. Bd2 a5 8. axb5 Bxc3 9. Bxc3 cxb5 10. b3 Bb7 11. bxc4 b4 12. Bb2 Nf6 13. Bd3 O-O 14. O-O Nbd7 15. Re1 Be4 16. Bc2 Qc7 17. c5 Rfd8 18. Ba4 Bc6 19. Qc2 Qb7 20. Rec1 Bxf3 21. c6

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- - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2009-11-13 02:30
1. d4 d5 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 c6 4. Nf3 dxc4 5. a4 Bb4 6. e3 b5 7. Bd2 a5 8. axb5 Bxc3 9. Bxc3 cxb5 10. b3 Bb7 11. bxc4 b4 12. Bb2 Nf6 13. Bd3 O-O 14. O-O Nbd7 15. Re1 Be4 16. Bc2 Qc7 17. c5 Rfd8 18. Ba4 Bc6 19. Qc2 Qb7 20. Rec1 Bxf3 21. c6 Qa6

r2r2k1/3n1ppp/q1P1pn2/p7/Bp1P4/4Pb2/1BQ2PPP/R1R3K1 w - -


Just 0.01 better than Bxc6, though knowing you, probably the difference is much higher and I'm much worse than I think.
Parent - By Rowlando (***) Date 2009-11-14 02:56
1. d4 d5 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 c6 4. Nf3 dxc4 5. a4 Bb4 6. e3 b5 7. Bd2 a5 8. axb5 Bxc3 9. Bxc3 cxb5 10. b3 Bb7 11. bxc4 b4 12. Bb2 Nf6 13. Bd3 O-O 14. O-O Nbd7 15. Re1 Be4 16. Bc2 Qc7 17. c5 Rfd8 18. Ba4 Bc6 19. Qc2 Qb7 20. Rec1 Bxf3 21. c6 Qa6 22. gxf3


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- - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2009-11-14 04:23
1. d4 d5 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 c6 4. Nf3 dxc4 5. a4 Bb4 6. e3 b5 7. Bd2 a5 8. axb5 Bxc3 9. Bxc3 cxb5 10. b3 Bb7 11. bxc4 b4 12. Bb2 Nf6 13. Bd3 O-O 14. O-O Nbd7 15. Re1 Be4 16. Bc2 Qc7 17. c5 Rfd8 18. Ba4 Bc6 19. Qc2 Qb7 20. Rec1 Bxf3 21. c6 Qa6 22. gxf3 Nb6

r2r2k1/5ppp/qnP1pn2/p7/Bp1P4/4PP2/1BQ2P1P/R1R3K1 w - -
Parent - By Rowlando (***) Date 2009-11-15 00:34
1. d4 d5 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 c6 4. Nf3 dxc4 5. a4 Bb4 6. e3 b5 7. Bd2 a5 8. axb5 Bxc3 9. Bxc3 cxb5 10. b3 Bb7 11. bxc4 b4 12. Bb2 Nf6 13. Bd3 O-O 14. O-O Nbd7 15. Re1 Be4 16. Bc2 Qc7 17. c5 Rfd8 18. Ba4 Bc6 19. Qc2 Qb7 20. Rec1 Bxf3 21. c6 Qa6 22. gxf3 Nb6 23. Bb3

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- - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2009-11-15 04:45
1. d4 d5 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 c6 4. Nf3 dxc4 5. a4 Bb4 6. e3 b5 7. Bd2 a5 8. axb5 Bxc3 9. Bxc3 cxb5 10. b3 Bb7 11. bxc4 b4 12. Bb2 Nf6 13. Bd3 O-O 14. O-O Nbd7 15. Re1 Be4 16. Bc2 Qc7 17. c5 Rfd8 18. Ba4 Bc6 19. Qc2 Qb7 20. Rec1 Bxf3 21. c6 Qa6 22. gxf3 Nb6 23. Bb3 a4

r2r2k1/5ppp/qnP1pn2/8/pp1P4/1B2PP2/1BQ2P1P/R1R3K1 w - -
Parent - By Rowlando (***) Date 2009-11-15 07:02
1. d4 d5 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 c6 4. Nf3 dxc4 5. a4 Bb4 6. e3 b5 7. Bd2 a5 8. axb5 Bxc3 9. Bxc3 cxb5 10. b3 Bb7 11. bxc4 b4 12. Bb2 Nf6 13. Bd3 O-O 14. O-O Nbd7 15. Re1 Be4 16. Bc2 Qc7 17. c5 Rfd8 18. Ba4 Bc6 19. Qc2 Qb7 20. Rec1 Bxf3 21. c6 Qa6 22. gxf3 Nb6 23. Bb3 a4 24. e4

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- - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2009-11-16 10:32
1. d4 d5 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 c6 4. Nf3 dxc4 5. a4 Bb4 6. e3 b5 7. Bd2 a5 8. axb5 Bxc3 9. Bxc3 cxb5 10. b3 Bb7 11. bxc4 b4 12. Bb2 Nf6 13. Bd3 O-O 14. O-O Nbd7 15. Re1 Be4 16. Bc2 Qc7 17. c5 Rfd8 18. Ba4 Bc6 19. Qc2 Qb7 20. Rec1 Bxf3 21. c6 Qa6 22. gxf3 Nb6 23. Bb3 a4 24. e4 Ne8

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Parent - By Rowlando (***) Date 2009-11-16 18:32
1. d4 d5 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 c6 4. Nf3 dxc4 5. a4 Bb4 6. e3 b5 7. Bd2 a5 8. axb5 Bxc3 9. Bxc3 cxb5 10. b3 Bb7 11. bxc4 b4 12. Bb2 Nf6 13. Bd3 O-O 14. O-O Nbd7 15. Re1 Be4 16. Bc2 Qc7 17. c5 Rfd8 18. Ba4 Bc6 19. Qc2 Qb7 20. Rec1 Bxf3 21. c6 Qa6 22. gxf3 Nb6 23. Bb3 a4 24. e4 Ne8 25. d5

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- - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2009-11-17 01:36
1. d4 d5 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 c6 4. Nf3 dxc4 5. a4 Bb4 6. e3 b5 7. Bd2 a5 8. axb5 Bxc3 9. Bxc3 cxb5 10. b3 Bb7 11. bxc4 b4 12. Bb2 Nf6 13. Bd3 O-O 14. O-O Nbd7 15. Re1 Be4 16. Bc2 Qc7 17. c5 Rfd8 18. Ba4 Bc6 19. Qc2 Qb7 20. Rec1 Bxf3 21. c6 Qa6 22. gxf3 Nb6 23. Bb3 a4 24. e4 Ne8 25. d5 exd5

r2rn1k1/5ppp/qnP5/3p4/pp2P3/1B3P2/1BQ2P1P/R1R3K1 w - -
Parent - - By Rowlando (***) Date 2009-11-17 18:00
1. d4 d5 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 c6 4. Nf3 dxc4 5. a4 Bb4 6. e3 b5 7. Bd2 a5 8. axb5 Bxc3 9. Bxc3 cxb5 10. b3 Bb7 11. bxc4 b4 12. Bb2 Nf6 13. Bd3 O-O 14. O-O Nbd7 15. Re1 Be4 16. Bc2 Qc7 17. c5 Rfd8 18. Ba4 Bc6 19. Qc2 Qb7 20. Rec1 Bxf3 21. c6 Qa6 22. gxf3 Nb6 23. Bb3 a4 24. e4 Ne8 25. d5 exd5 26. Qc5

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To have any realistic shot at winning, I think I needed 25...Qb5.  Looks like a draw.
Parent - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2009-11-17 23:29
Agreed.

I've got to admit that I only took a brief look at 25. d5, and dismissed it due to the small negative evaluation that seemed to stay, but I decided to not play 25...Qb5 before it happened.
- - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2009-11-18 06:46
1. d4 d5 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 c6 4. Nf3 dxc4 5. a4 Bb4 6. e3 b5 7. Bd2 a5 8. axb5 Bxc3 9. Bxc3 cxb5 10. b3 Bb7 11. bxc4 b4 12. Bb2 Nf6 13. Bd3 O-O 14. O-O Nbd7 15. Re1 Be4 16. Bc2 Qc7 17. c5 Rfd8 18. Ba4 Bc6 19. Qc2 Qb7 20. Rec1 Bxf3 21. c6 Qa6 22. gxf3 Nb6 23. Bb3 a4 24. e4 Ne8 25. d5 exd5 26. Qc5 h5

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Parent - By Rowlando (***) Date 2009-11-20 07:20
1. d4 d5 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 c6 4. Nf3 dxc4 5. a4 Bb4 6. e3 b5 7. Bd2 a5 8. axb5 Bxc3 9. Bxc3 cxb5 10. b3 Bb7 11. bxc4 b4 12. Bb2 Nf6 13. Bd3 O-O 14. O-O Nbd7 15. Re1 Be4 16. Bc2 Qc7 17. c5 Rfd8 18. Ba4 Bc6 19. Qc2 Qb7 20. Rec1 Bxf3 21. c6 Qa6 22. gxf3 Nb6 23. Bb3 a4 24. e4 Ne8 25. d5 exd5 26. Qc5 h5  27. Re1

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- - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2009-11-20 12:00
1. d4 d5 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 c6 4. Nf3 dxc4 5. a4 Bb4 6. e3 b5 7. Bd2 a5 8. axb5 Bxc3 9. Bxc3 cxb5 10. b3 Bb7 11. bxc4 b4 12. Bb2 Nf6 13. Bd3 O-O 14. O-O Nbd7 15. Re1 Be4 16. Bc2 Qc7 17. c5 Rfd8 18. Ba4 Bc6 19. Qc2 Qb7 20. Rec1 Bxf3 21. c6 Qa6 22. gxf3 Nb6 23. Bb3 a4 24. e4 Ne8 25. d5 exd5 26. Qc5 h5 27. Re1 Rac8

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Parent - - By Rowlando (***) Date 2009-11-21 20:17
1. d4 d5 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 c6 4. Nf3 dxc4 5. a4 Bb4 6. e3 b5 7. Bd2 a5 8. axb5 Bxc3 9. Bxc3 cxb5 10. b3 Bb7 11. bxc4 b4 12. Bb2 Nf6 13. Bd3 O-O 14. O-O Nbd7 15. Re1 Be4 16. Bc2 Qc7 17. c5 Rfd8 18. Ba4 Bc6 19. Qc2 Qb7 20. Rec1 Bxf3 21. c6 Qa6 22. gxf3 Nb6 23. Bb3 a4 24. e4 Ne8 25. d5 exd5 26. Qc5 h5 27. Re1 Rac8 28. h4

2rrn1k1/5pp1/qnP5/2Qp3p/pp2P2P/1B3P2/1B3P2/R3R1K1 b - h3 0 28


It is unusual for a drawn position to be so treacherous!
Parent - - By Dadi Jonsson (Silver) [is] Date 2009-11-21 21:12
Yes, this is a very complicated and interesting position! If it was reached in a game between two GMs I'm sure we would see a decisive result. I hope you will play on :)
Parent - - By Rowlando (***) Date 2009-11-21 22:09

> Yes, this is a very complicated and interesting position! If it was reached in a game between two GMs I'm sure we would see a decisive result. I hope you will play on


I agree.  It is too interesting and too fraught with danger to stop now!  :-)

I had hoped the complexity of the position would prevent IA from unlocking the Rac8 wonder move but it wasn't to be....
Parent - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2009-11-22 02:02

> I had hoped the complexity of the position would prevent IA from unlocking the Rac8 wonder move but it wasn't to be....


Well, after I realized my old analysis method was really bad at defending seemingly lost positions (see my game against Jonas) and led to self refutations when several moves were close (just a kind of refuting the best moves and bringing all moves to the same evaluation, then not being able anymore to see which one is better) I'm trying something new (to me) with Persistent Hash, it seems sound enough that I don't think you'll be able to defeat me, but it'd be great if I can do it, so I agree, that we should keep draw offers out of our minds for the moment :)
Parent - By Highendman (****) Date 2009-11-22 02:38
I think the only GM in the world that would feel at home in this position is Moro.
Looking at this position without an engine I feel after 30 seconds of thought lost at sea without a map :)
- - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2009-11-22 14:50
Or not. Phew! This is the only move that appears to not give white an edge...

1. d4 d5 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 c6 4. Nf3 dxc4 5. a4 Bb4 6. e3 b5 7. Bd2 a5 8. axb5 Bxc3 9. Bxc3 cxb5 10. b3 Bb7 11. bxc4 b4 12. Bb2 Nf6 13. Bd3 O-O 14. O-O Nbd7 15. Re1 Be4 16. Bc2 Qc7 17. c5 Rfd8 18. Ba4 Bc6 19. Qc2 Qb7 20. Rec1 Bxf3 21. c6 Qa6 22. gxf3 Nb6 23. Bb3 a4 24. e4 Ne8 25. d5 exd5 26. Qc5 h5 27. Re1 Rac8 28. h4 Nc4

2rrn1k1/5pp1/q1P5/2Qp3p/ppn1P2P/1B3P2/1B3P2/R3R1K1 w - -
Parent - - By Rowlando (***) Date 2009-11-22 17:29

> Or not. Phew! This is the only move that appears to not give white an edge


Once again, you dodge a bullet!  I had something really special planned.  I'm dying to know if you actually saw it but I'll wait until after the game to share the variation.
Parent - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2009-11-23 01:50
I don't know, but I noticed that in the other 2 "playable" lines one misstep and I was dead :), no reason to go there assuming you'd not miss anything, hopefully this line isn't like that.
Parent - By Rowlando (***) Date 2009-11-23 01:37
1. d4 d5 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 c6 4. Nf3 dxc4 5. a4 Bb4 6. e3 b5 7. Bd2 a5 8. axb5 Bxc3 9. Bxc3 cxb5 10. b3 Bb7 11. bxc4 b4 12. Bb2 Nf6 13. Bd3 O-O 14. O-O Nbd7 15. Re1 Be4 16. Bc2 Qc7 17. c5 Rfd8 18. Ba4 Bc6 19. Qc2 Qb7 20. Rec1 Bxf3 21. c6 Qa6 22. gxf3 Nb6 23. Bb3 a4 24. e4 Ne8 25. d5 exd5 26. Qc5 h5 27. Re1 Rac8 28. h4 Nc4 29. Bxa4

2rrn1k1/5pp1/q1P5/2Qp3p/Bpn1P2P/5P2/1B3P2/R3R1K1 b - -
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