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Parent - - By turbojuice1122 (Gold) [us] Date 2009-06-15 19:39
This move is perfectly good, just not as well-explored as the others.  I thought it would be nice to get some adventure instead of a book war. :-)
Parent - By Jonas (****) [at] Date 2009-06-15 19:52
im still in book ^^ but those g3 variations very very often end in a draw
Parent - - By keoki010 (Bronze) [us] Date 2009-06-16 15:19 Edited 2009-06-16 15:21
14. c5

In that case here is more adventure... :cool:

2rq1rk1/p1p2ppp/1pn1pn2/2Pp4/3P1B2/P4PPB/1P3P1P/2RQ1RK1 b - -
Parent - - By keoki010 (Bronze) [us] Date 2009-06-16 15:23 Edited 2009-06-16 15:29
14. c5

[Fen "2rq1rk1/p1p2ppp/1pn1pn2/2Pp4/3P1B2/P4PPB/1P3P1P/2RQ1RK1 b - -"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nf3 Bb4+ 4. Nbd2 b6 5. a3 Bxd2+ 6. Bxd2 Bb7 7. g3 O-O 8.
Bg2 Be4 9. O-O Nc6 10. Rc1 Rc8 11. Bf4 d6 12. Bh3 Bxf3 13. exf3 d5 14. c5
Parent - - By Jonas (****) [at] Date 2009-06-16 17:11
1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nf3 Bb4+ 4. Nbd2 b6 5. a3 Bxd2+ 6. Bxd2 Bb7 7. g3 O-O 8.
Bg2 Be4 9. O-O Nc6 10. Rc1 Rc8 11. Bf4 d6 12. Bh3 Bxf3 13. exf3 d5 14. c5

14...b5

2rq1rk1/p1p2ppp/2n1pn2/1pPp4/P2P1B2/5PPB/1P3P1P/2RQ1RK1 b - - 0 15
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2009-06-16 20:45
15.Qd3

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nf3 Bb4+ 4. Nbd2 b6 5. a3 Bxd2+
6. Bxd2 Bb7 7. g3 O-O 8. Bg2 Be4 9. O-O Nc6 10. Rc1 Rc8
11. Bf4 d6 12. Bh3 Bxf3 13. exf3 d5 14. c5 b5 15. Qd3

2rq1rk1/p1p2ppp/2n1pn2/1pPp4/3P1B2/P2Q1PPB/1P3P1P/2R2RK1 b - -
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2009-06-16 21:19
15...a5
Parent - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2009-06-16 21:26
i dont think 11...d6 helped blacks cause much.
Parent - By deka (****) [ee] Date 2009-06-16 23:25
16. Rfe1
Parent - - By Vempele (Silver) [fi] Date 2009-06-16 21:27
The pawn on a4 is wrong.
Parent - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2009-06-16 21:32
i know. b5 was still right though.
Parent - - By keoki010 (Bronze) [us] Date 2009-06-17 13:55
16...Rb8


[Fen "1r1q1rk1/2p2ppp/2n1pn2/ppPp4/3P1B2/P2Q1PPB/1P3P1P/2R1R1K1 w - - 0 1"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nf3 Bb4+ 4. Nbd2 b6 5. a3 Bxd2+
6. Bxd2 Bb7 7. g3 O-O 8. Bg2 Be4 9. O-O Nc6 10. Rc1 Rc8
11. Bf4 d6 12. Bh3 Bxf3 13. exf3 d5 14. c5 b5 15. Qd3 a5
16. Rfe1 Rb8

Vytron fixed the pawn...
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2009-06-17 21:22
your playing both sides?
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2009-06-17 22:07

> your playing both sides?


In this game there's no rule that says otherwise, I started this game as black but switched sides later on :smile:

17.Bd2

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nf3 Bb4+ 4. Nbd2 b6 5. a3 Bxd2+
6. Bxd2 Bb7 7. g3 O-O 8. Bg2 Be4 9. O-O Nc6 10. Rc1 Rc8
11. Bf4 d6 12. Bh3 Bxf3 13. exf3 d5 14. c5 b5 15. Qd3 a5
16. Rfe1 Rb8 17. Bd2

1r1q1rk1/2p2ppp/2n1pn2/ppPp4/3P4/P2Q1PPB/1P1B1P1P/2R1R1K1 b - -
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2009-06-17 22:22
yeh,you had a choice of quite a few moves here,i reply  17...Re8
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2009-06-17 22:27
18.f4
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2009-06-17 22:31
now i have a lot of choice.
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2009-06-17 22:44
I like white better, I think it's one of these positions where Rybka 3 underestimates the bishop pair and overestimates the doubled pawn, so she minimizes white's advantage on her score.
Parent - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2009-06-17 22:49
whilst the position is locked like this the knights are good.i think i can defend this,maybe not tomorrow,ha ha.yes i can defend this.
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2009-06-17 22:44
may as well go for it 18...Ne4
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2009-06-17 22:52 Edited 2009-06-18 03:05
The Bishop feels uncomfortable.

19.Be3

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nf3 Bb4+ 4. Nbd2 b6 5. a3 Bxd2+
6. Bxd2 Bb7 7. g3 O-O 8. Bg2 Be4 9. O-O Nc6 10. Rc1 Rc8
11. Bf4 d6 12. Bh3 Bxf3 13. exf3 d5 14. c5 b5 15. Qd3 a5
16. Rfe1 Rb8 17. Bd2 Re8 18. f4 Ne4 19. Be3

1r1qr1k1/2p2ppp/2n1p3/ppPp4/3PnP2/P2QB1PB/1P3P1P/2R1R1K1 b - -
Parent - - By turbojuice1122 (Gold) [us] Date 2009-06-17 22:53
Your bishop? :razz:
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2009-06-17 22:54
Yes, is that some grammatical correction ala Vempele? I don't see the mistake.
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2009-06-17 23:02
i expect you are waiting for 19... Nf6,however i may have other ideas.
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2009-06-17 23:09
19...h6
Parent - - By Jonas (****) [at] Date 2009-06-18 01:26
dont see any ideas for black... i decide to play white a few moves
20.f3 (and all doors are closed)
btw yes, now i expect Nf6
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2009-06-18 06:50
20...Nf6
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2009-06-18 07:19
21.Bd2
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2009-06-18 09:58
21...Nd7
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2009-06-18 10:06
22.b4
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2009-06-18 10:30
22...a4
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2009-06-18 22:27
23.Bc3

Oh well, I think I played too fast, but it was either that or risking missing the move (someone else could play instead of me), it's hard to have a good pace.
Parent - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2009-06-18 22:35
i was expecting Be3,however this is also ok.
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2009-06-18 23:16
23...Ne7
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2009-06-19 00:08
24.Re2
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2009-06-19 08:20
24...Nf8
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2009-06-19 09:53
25.Rce1
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2009-06-19 10:18
25...Qd7
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2009-06-20 04:48
26.Bd2

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nf3 Bb4+ 4. Nbd2 b6 5. a3 Bxd2+ 6. Bxd2 Bb7 7. g3 O-O 8. Bg2 Be4 9. O-O Nc6 10. Rc1 Rc8 11. Bf4 d6 12. Bh3 Bxf3 13. exf3 d5 14. c5 b5 15. Qd3 a5 16. Rfe1 Rb8 17. Bd2 Re8 18. f4 Ne4 19. Be3 h6 20. f3 Nf6 21. Bd2 Nd7 22. b4 a4 23. Bc3 Ne7 24. Re2 Nf8 25. Rce1 Qd7 26. Bd2

1r2rnk1/2pqnpp1/4p2p/1pPp4/pP1P1P2/P2Q1PPB/3BR2P/4R1K1 b - -
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2009-06-20 12:22
26...c6
Parent - - By tano-urayoan (****) [pr] Date 2009-06-20 22:05
g4
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2009-06-20 22:10
27...f5
Parent - - By tano-urayoan (****) [pr] Date 2009-06-20 22:19
Re5
Parent - - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2009-06-20 22:23
28...Rbd8
Parent - - By tano-urayoan (****) [pr] Date 2009-06-22 00:58
R1e2
Parent - - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2009-06-22 01:21
Sorry, I still have to reinstall all my chess programs to be at full strength, I did want to play move 29 but I'll reincorporate to the game soon.
Parent - By Jonas (****) [at] Date 2009-06-22 03:56
well... ok
Parent - By NATIONAL12 (Gold) [gb] Date 2009-06-22 08:38
29...Rb8
1r2rnk1/3qn1p1/2p1p2p/1pPpRp2/pP1P1PP1/P2Q1P1B/3BR2P/6K1 w - -
Parent - - By Jonas (****) [at] Date 2009-06-18 01:19
its just not only his bishop
Parent - By Uly (Gold) [mx] Date 2009-06-18 03:04
I see now, thanks for the correction, fixed.

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